<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942819925463058432</id><updated>2012-01-27T14:38:27.857-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Waitakere News</title><subtitle type='html'>A westie view of Waitakere and New Zealand Politics with a lefty twist</subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><link rel='next' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default?start-index=101&amp;max-results=100'/><author><name>mickysavage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16293708548352713924</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_80M5EXfefKc/R-IovH7v_KI/AAAAAAAAABM/qQyaZJmhNCY/S220/mickysavage.jpg'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>144</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942819925463058432.post-1011953308913479971</id><published>2012-01-25T16:37:00.001-08:00</published><updated>2012-01-25T16:38:03.987-08:00</updated><title type='text'>EXCLUSIVE:  The real teapot tapes abridged and with the background noise taken out ...</title><content type='html'>&lt;iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/ehz9M6huaDg" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/942819925463058432-1011953308913479971?l=waitakerenews.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/feeds/1011953308913479971/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=942819925463058432&amp;postID=1011953308913479971' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/1011953308913479971'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/1011953308913479971'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/2012/01/exclusve-real-teapot-tapes-abridged-and.html' title='EXCLUSIVE:  The real teapot tapes abridged and with the background noise taken out ...'/><author><name>mickysavage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16293708548352713924</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_80M5EXfefKc/R-IovH7v_KI/AAAAAAAAABM/qQyaZJmhNCY/S220/mickysavage.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/ehz9M6huaDg/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942819925463058432.post-234910442432927567</id><published>2012-01-24T10:59:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2012-01-24T11:01:57.218-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Ports of Auckland and Ernst and Young use the same calculator</title><content type='html'>&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-QtLalXPtIR8/Tx5ufir0WOI/AAAAAAAAATs/ljny2vzt9Hs/s1600/Ken-Ziegler+no+scabs+maritime+workers.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="320" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-QtLalXPtIR8/Tx5ufir0WOI/AAAAAAAAATs/ljny2vzt9Hs/s320/Ken-Ziegler+no+scabs+maritime+workers.jpg" width="212" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span id="goog_1996305247"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/why_nobody_went_to_jail_xl6HsIF94hzgXIClPhNx4N"&gt;Ernst and Young&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span id="goog_1996305248"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;have on behalf of POAL reviewed POAL's figures and have&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/79155583/Ports-of-Auckland-Fact-Sheet-Ernst-and-Young"&gt;come up with&lt;/a&gt; the same results, barring a rounding difference in relation to the average annual wage. &amp;nbsp;POAL thought it was $91,480, Ernst and Young rounded it up to $91,481. &amp;nbsp;The other calculations remains the same.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Of course for some this is conclusive evidence that POAL is right and the Maritime Workers' Union is wrong but I cannot help but think that each side is talking about different things. &amp;nbsp;Because it appears to me that the figures quoted do not represent the actual amount of money being paid to the POAL workers. &amp;nbsp;And there is a stunning statistical anomaly that no one has addressed so far.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The Ernst and Young analysis states that it includes a range of allowances, payments and shift payments. &amp;nbsp;These are not specified. &amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.poal.co.nz/news_media/publications/POAL_financial_review_2010.pdf"&gt;POAL's 2010 accounts&lt;/a&gt; had a line item that referred to &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 19px;"&gt;"employee benefits expense, including restructuring costs and termination benefits."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 19px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; When &lt;a href="http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/2012/01/maritime-workers-union-losing.html"&gt;this figure is divided&lt;/a&gt; by the number of employees it comes up with a figure that is remarkably close to the average wage claimed by POAL.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 19px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 19px;"&gt;So it would help if POAL detailed all of the figures it uses in the calculations. &amp;nbsp;Do they include ACC payments and redundancy payments. &amp;nbsp;If so they clearly do not reflect take home pay.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 19px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 19px;"&gt;The real problem is that the income figure contradicts other figures in the report. &amp;nbsp;The average number of hours paid per week is said to be 43. &amp;nbsp;Presuming this is the average figure per week for 52 weeks the hourly rate was $40.91 per hour, way more than the stevedore rate of $27.26 per hour. &amp;nbsp;Shift and other allowances are not big enough to increase this figure. &amp;nbsp;An explanation and a breakdown of how this figure was achieved would be helpful.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 19px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 19px;"&gt;There are two important matters to consider.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 19px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 19px;"&gt;Firstly my overwhelming urge is to say "so what". &amp;nbsp;The job is highly skilled, the workers are required to work all sorts of hours at short notice and I thought the idea was to increase workers' wages, &lt;a href="http://thestandard.org.nz/key-loves-to-see-wages-drop/"&gt;not decrease them&lt;/a&gt;. &amp;nbsp;Why should the chief executive be paid three quarters of a million dollars a year while the workers get paid a tenth that.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 19px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 19px;"&gt;Secondly POAL is continuing to use right wing bloggers to get the message out. &amp;nbsp;The Ernst and Young document, released on January 24, 2012 has a time stamp of 2:10 pm. &amp;nbsp;Slater &lt;a href="http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2012/01/ernst-young-91k-figure-for-wharfies-is-correct/"&gt;had it up on his site at 2:34 pm&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/01/audited_pay_facts_from_ports_of_auckland.html"&gt;Farrar had it up at 3:02 pm.&lt;/a&gt; &amp;nbsp;At the time of writing &lt;a href="http://poal.co.nz/news_media/2012media_releases.htm"&gt;POAL still does not have it up on its site&lt;/a&gt;. &amp;nbsp;How weird is that?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 19px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 19px;"&gt;One wonders if Slater et al have been enrolled in the propaganda campaign by POAL to sway public opinion. &amp;nbsp;The Maritime Union could use some education about social media so it could counter the onslaught.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 19px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 19px;"&gt;Finally the financial analysis that I am really interested is &lt;a href="http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/2012/01/is-aucklands-ports-labour-costs-cheaper.html"&gt;whether POAL or Ports of Tauranga pay more for their labour&lt;/a&gt;?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 19px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/942819925463058432-234910442432927567?l=waitakerenews.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/feeds/234910442432927567/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=942819925463058432&amp;postID=234910442432927567' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/234910442432927567'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/234910442432927567'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/2012/01/ports-of-auckland-and-ernst-and-young.html' title='Ports of Auckland and Ernst and Young use the same calculator'/><author><name>mickysavage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16293708548352713924</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_80M5EXfefKc/R-IovH7v_KI/AAAAAAAAABM/qQyaZJmhNCY/S220/mickysavage.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-QtLalXPtIR8/Tx5ufir0WOI/AAAAAAAAATs/ljny2vzt9Hs/s72-c/Ken-Ziegler+no+scabs+maritime+workers.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942819925463058432.post-8066652225847600675</id><published>2012-01-18T14:28:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2012-01-18T19:22:53.361-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Which side are you on?</title><content type='html'>&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/N43Cm6ra0hY" width="420"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Jenny at the Standard &lt;a href="http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-19012012/#comment-426738"&gt;reminded me recently &lt;/a&gt;of the Pete Seeger performed song "Which side are you on?"&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The song was written by Florence Reece, the wife of Sam Reece who was a union leader of the coal miners in Kentucky in 1931.&amp;nbsp; The miners and management were involved at the time in a bloody, violent struggle.&amp;nbsp; The song has become a working class ballad and has been performed by Pete Seeger, &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxfZtNEG1xU"&gt;Natalie Merchant &lt;/a&gt;and &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbddqXib814&amp;amp;feature=endscreen&amp;amp;NR=1"&gt;Billy Bragg &lt;/a&gt;amongst others.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: left;"&gt;The song is very relevant for Labour's leadership.&amp;nbsp; The party has been criticised for failing to take a stand on the POAL dispute.&amp;nbsp; Left wing commentators such as &lt;a href="http://norightturn.blogspot.com/2012/01/still-useless.html" style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Idiot Savant&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://bowalleyroad.blogspot.com/2012/01/auckland-ports-dispute-open-letter-to.html" style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Chris Trotter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/kiwisummer/audio/2507427/on-the-radar-gordon-campbell.asx"&gt;Gordon Campbell&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://tumeke.blogspot.com/2012/01/earth-to-labour-party-where-are-you.html" style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Bomber Bradbury&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt; have called for the Party to take a stand.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;Initially it was very quiet.&amp;nbsp; More recently Darien Fenton has &lt;a href="http://blog.labour.org.nz/2012/01/18/labour-and-the-poa/"&gt;said &lt;/a&gt;clearly that the party opposes the privatisation of POAL and spoke of the importance of good faith bargaining.&amp;nbsp; She reiterated a statistic that should be repeated and repeated, that there have been no deaths on the Auckland Wharf for the past 18 years but there have been three at Tauranga in the past 15 months.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: left;"&gt;Phil Twyford has also publicly &lt;a href="http://www.labour.org.nz/news/flogging-off-assets-does-nothing-to-help-new-zealand"&gt;said&lt;/a&gt; that the port should not be privatised and talks about how there should be a more rationally coordinated approach.&amp;nbsp; He muddied the waters by talking about possible rationalisation of New Zealand's ports.&amp;nbsp; It is not helpful at this time to confuse matters more by introducing further issues into the debate.&amp;nbsp; He has &lt;a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;amp;objectid=10779669"&gt;condemned &lt;/a&gt;contracting out as "a form of privatisation".         He comes close to opposing the attempt to deunionise the site by his comment "I don't think that this union-busting that we are seeing in the port is an acceptable way to squeeze out a few extra points of productivity," &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: left;"&gt;But IMHO they should be braver.&amp;nbsp; They need to say that the &lt;a href="http://www.radiolive.co.nz/Ports-of-Auckland-and-Maritime-Union-dispute-continues/tabid/506/articleID/25456/Default.aspx"&gt;attempt to deunionise the site is unacceptable&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;nbsp; It is bad enough when a privately owned company engages in such behaviour.&amp;nbsp; But when a company fully owned by a public institution that has a statutory obligation to be a good employer engages in such behaviour there is something seriously wrong.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;28 local board members have &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/2012/01/why-len-brown-should-intervene-in-poal.html" style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;publicly said &lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;that the attempt to undermine the union is wrong.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;It is time for the elected parliamentary representatives of the party born of the class struggle and the aspirations of working people to do the same.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/942819925463058432-8066652225847600675?l=waitakerenews.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/feeds/8066652225847600675/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=942819925463058432&amp;postID=8066652225847600675' title='6 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/8066652225847600675'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/8066652225847600675'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/2012/01/which-side-are-you-on.html' title='Which side are you on?'/><author><name>mickysavage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16293708548352713924</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_80M5EXfefKc/R-IovH7v_KI/AAAAAAAAABM/qQyaZJmhNCY/S220/mickysavage.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/N43Cm6ra0hY/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>6</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942819925463058432.post-8602160743163578457</id><published>2012-01-17T11:20:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2012-01-17T11:20:46.903-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Why Len Brown should intervene in the POAL Dispute</title><content type='html'>&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-gDbRZqN8IT0/TxXJEU1hdkI/AAAAAAAAATk/AXauweb9MQk/s1600/WRLB+Len+Brown+Auckland+unleashed.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="213" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-gDbRZqN8IT0/TxXJEU1hdkI/AAAAAAAAATk/AXauweb9MQk/s320/WRLB+Len+Brown+Auckland+unleashed.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The Ports of Auckland dispute continues to attract headlines.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Twenty eight Local Board representatives including a reasonably well known left wing blogger (well two including the renowned &lt;a href="http://thehandmirror.blogspot.com/p/about.html"&gt;Julie Fairley&lt;/a&gt;) have come out and said that Ports of Auckland should do three things:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1.  Return to a good faith bargaining position,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2.  Drop plans to outsource jobs,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3.  Stop using the dispute as a wedge to promote privatization of the Wharf.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The usual subjects have reacted in shock.  Slater &lt;a href="http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2012/01/munz-has-competition-for-the-stupidity-crown/"&gt;thinks&lt;/a&gt; they are "King Idiots" and Farrar &lt;a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/01/local_labour_backs_maritime_union.html"&gt;says&lt;/a&gt; that they are asking POAL to "surrender" to the demands of the Maritime Workers Union.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Both of these have been amongst the forefront of those pushing the &lt;a href="http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/2012/01/maritime-workers-union-losing.html"&gt;fiction&lt;/a&gt; that the workers are on average earning $91,000 per year.  The workers are on a reasonable wage, but given the very unsocial hours and the highly skilled nature of the job I think they are worth every penny.  And if the &lt;a href="http://thestandard.org.nz/for-the-economic-record/"&gt;aspiration&lt;/a&gt; is to catch up with Australia, why would you want to reduce wages and conditions?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The commentators of the right keep talking about the how overpaid and privileged these workers are, but, without any embarrassment, do not even mention chief executive Tony Gibson's is earning $750,000 per annum.  His &lt;a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&amp;amp;objectid=10778865"&gt;salary&lt;/a&gt; is worth a great deal of productivity increases.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;They keep insisting on the need to improve productivity without acknowledging that over the past few years considerable productivity improvements have occurred.  And they keep talking about how much better Tauranga is, without acknowledging that three Tauranga Port workers have lost their lives over the past 15 months at the same time that every Auckland Port worker has returned home after a work shift.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The CTU and Helen Kelly have become involved.  In my humble opinion Helen is a superb leader of the CTU, intelligent, passionate and informed, and the attacks on her by some are a sign of her effectiveness.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Recently on Radio Live she &lt;a href="http://www.radiolive.co.nz/Ports-of-Auckland-and-Maritime-Union-dispute-continues/tabid/506/articleID/25456/Default.aspx"&gt;spoke&lt;/a&gt; of the dispute.  She said that the Maritime Workers Union had in the negotiations offered significant changes to the way they work resolved productivity problems but that POAL  had effectively said that it did not want a collective agreement and wanted to contract out.  It wanted cheaper casualised Labour and wanted to move the Union out.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Len Brown has been put on the spot and &lt;a href="http://bowalleyroad.blogspot.com/2012/01/auckland-ports-dispute-injury-to-all.html"&gt;some&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.blogger.com/goog_1434177406"&gt;o&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://norightturn.blogspot.com/2012/01/speaking-out-on-ports-of-auckland.html"&gt;n&lt;/a&gt; the left have criticized his response to the dispute.  He was reported in the Herald as &lt;a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&amp;amp;objectid=10777533"&gt;saying&lt;/a&gt; that there must be more flexibility in work practices to make the port more productive and profitable for the council.  He was quoted as saying that "I would encourage them to do everything they can as loyal Aucklanders to resolve this issue without any further unnecessary time wasting".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Well it looks like the Maritime Workers agree with him and &lt;a href="http://www.radiolive.co.nz/Ports-of-Auckland-and-Maritime-Union-dispute-continues/tabid/506/articleID/25456/Default.aspx"&gt;according to Helen Kelly&lt;/a&gt; have made concessions that will reduce employment conditions but improve profitability.  A deal seems to be eminently achievable.  So unless Len wants to watch as the Union is dismantled he should step in. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; To be honest this is a hospital pass for the Left.  All but one of the current POAL Board were appointed since 2009 and obviously reflect the current political reality.  But POAL has some very important obligations which to my mind mean that it is currently in breach of its obligations. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Firstly there is section 59(1)(b) of the Local Government Act 2002 which states that a principal objective of a Council Controlled Organisation is to be a "good employer".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What is a "good employer"?  Presumably one which complies fully with its obligations under the Employment Relations Act 2000.  One of these is contained in section 9 which says that "[a] contract, agreement, or other arrangement between persons must not confer on a person, because the person is or is not a member of a union or a particular union ... any preference in obtaining or retaining employment; or ... any preference in relation to terms or conditions of employment (including conditions relating to redundancy) or fringe benefits or opportunities for training, promotion, or transfer."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So trying to deunionise a site would appear to be a clear breach of an obligation to be a good employer.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What can Auckland Council do?  Under clause 26.9 of POAL's constitution any director can be removed.  This is an extreme measure but the way this dispute is heading something extreme may be required to resolve matters.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/942819925463058432-8602160743163578457?l=waitakerenews.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/feeds/8602160743163578457/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=942819925463058432&amp;postID=8602160743163578457' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/8602160743163578457'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/8602160743163578457'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/2012/01/why-len-brown-should-intervene-in-poal.html' title='Why Len Brown should intervene in the POAL Dispute'/><author><name>mickysavage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16293708548352713924</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_80M5EXfefKc/R-IovH7v_KI/AAAAAAAAABM/qQyaZJmhNCY/S220/mickysavage.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-gDbRZqN8IT0/TxXJEU1hdkI/AAAAAAAAATk/AXauweb9MQk/s72-c/WRLB+Len+Brown+Auckland+unleashed.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942819925463058432.post-2731030256292465878</id><published>2012-01-14T09:55:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2012-01-14T09:55:04.424-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Is Auckland's Port's labour costs cheaper than Tauranga's?</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-BfKsfd9UE_Q/Tw_TbtdRdfI/AAAAAAAAATc/2kUEztPcAw4/s1600/POAL+maritime+workers+treatment.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="213" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-BfKsfd9UE_Q/Tw_TbtdRdfI/AAAAAAAAATc/2kUEztPcAw4/s320/POAL+maritime+workers+treatment.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Industrial relations POAL style?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This post started as a rather dry legal discussion of the Ports of Auckland dispute and the need for POAL to negotiate in good faith. It seems that &lt;a href="http://www.munz.org.nz/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/poal_labour_strategy.pdf"&gt;POAL may have problems in this regard&lt;/a&gt;. &amp;nbsp;But after reading &lt;a href="http://thestandard.org.nz/stick-a-fork-in-port-management-theyre-done/"&gt;the latest Standard post&lt;/a&gt; on the subject and doing a bit of digging into the financial reports for POAL and Tauranga Port I thought I should post this instead.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Bryan Gaynor has a &lt;a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&amp;amp;objectid=10778573"&gt;recent article&lt;/a&gt; in the Herald which concludes that POAL is performing far worse than Tauranga.  He suggests that it is in part because of labour costs but to be fair he also says that POAL's Board has performed poorly.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In particular he says this:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;But the poor performance of POA can also be attributed to the company's board, management and politicians.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;His basic mistake is to compare POAL's labour costs with Tauranga Port's labour costs without allowing for the extra costs of Tauranga's contractors.  He said this:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;One of POA's biggest issues is its wage bill of $54.9 million compared with POT's total employee expenses of $25.3 million, even though the latter is now the larger port.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;So I thought I should check this out.  How do the respective Ports' labour costs compare?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Well knock me down with a feather but the analysis gets really interesting. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There are two basic problems with comparing the two ports’ accounts:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;Each entity uses different accounting standards and it is not easy mapping expenses against each other.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;POAL has not released full figures for the past financial year.  I understand this is because of a question about the accounting standards to be applied but whatever the reason this does not help.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;But there are some very interesting features:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;Revenue is similar in the past financial year, for POAL it was $177m, for Tauranga it was $185m.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;In 2010 POAL’s spend on employees (whatever this covers) was 31.4% of revenue or $51.9m. &amp;nbsp; The figure for 2011 does not appear on POAL's website.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Tauranga has three figures in its 2011 accounts, employees ($25.3m),  contractors ($33.9m) and transport contractors ($5.8m).  If these figures are the same as POAL’s employee expense figure then Tauranga’s labour costs as a proportion of revenue was 35%, larger than POAL’s figure.  Even if you take out the cost of transport it was still larger at 31.9%. To make this abundantly clear it appears that POAL spent $51.9m on employees in 2010, and Tauranga spent $59.2m on employees and contractors excluding transport contractors in 2011. &amp;nbsp;To make this really, really simple it appears Tauranga spent more on its workers to get about the same revenue.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Please can someone say why this analysis is not correct.  Otherwise this really looks like a manufactured crisis where the “inefficiency” is only a quirk of the accounting techniques.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;POAL’s 2010 figures are &lt;a href="http://www.poal.co.nz/news_media/publications/POAL_financial_review_2010.pdf"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; and the 2011 summary is &lt;a href="http://poal.co.nz/news_media/publications/POAL%202010-2011%20Financial%20Highlights.pdf"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.  Tauranga’s 2011 figures are &lt;a href="http://www.port-tauranga.co.nz/images.php?oid=3861"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One further comment,  Catherine Etheredge &lt;a href="http://thestandard.org.nz/ports-paid-propagandist-says-cut-workers-pay/#comment-424004"&gt;said&lt;/a&gt; that POAL’s calculations do not include redundancies.  BUT the line item in POAL's 2010 accounts says that the employee benefit expense “includ[es] restructuring costs and termination benefits” which must include redundancy costs. &amp;nbsp;Clarification would be good.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So if I am wrong please say where.  But it does seem to me that Auckland's Port's labour costs may actually be less than Tauranga Port's.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/942819925463058432-2731030256292465878?l=waitakerenews.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/feeds/2731030256292465878/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=942819925463058432&amp;postID=2731030256292465878' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/2731030256292465878'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/2731030256292465878'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/2012/01/is-aucklands-ports-labour-costs-cheaper.html' title='Is Auckland&apos;s Port&apos;s labour costs cheaper than Tauranga&apos;s?'/><author><name>mickysavage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16293708548352713924</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_80M5EXfefKc/R-IovH7v_KI/AAAAAAAAABM/qQyaZJmhNCY/S220/mickysavage.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-BfKsfd9UE_Q/Tw_TbtdRdfI/AAAAAAAAATc/2kUEztPcAw4/s72-c/POAL+maritime+workers+treatment.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942819925463058432.post-2528836287543082467</id><published>2012-01-07T13:04:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2012-01-07T13:04:19.347-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Brian Leyland should watch "there once was an island"</title><content type='html'>&lt;!--[if gte mso 9]&gt;&lt;xml&gt; 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text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-M1JIEQSB5NE/TwixqAsMJ8I/AAAAAAAAATU/vbd5ixTSnOw/s1600/The+once+was+an+island+poster.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-M1JIEQSB5NE/TwixqAsMJ8I/AAAAAAAAATU/vbd5ixTSnOw/s1600/The+once+was+an+island+poster.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Brian Leyland, well known climate change sceptic and the recipient of corporate funding to advance a world view sympathetic to the power companies is at it again.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;This morning in the Sunday Star Times he has had &lt;a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/business/6220264/Global-warming-a-modern-day-myth"&gt;published an article&lt;/a&gt; suggesting with complete confidence that global warming is a myth.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;The concept was apparently created by Enron who wanted to use it to sell carbon credits.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Why a power company that relied heavily on producers who produced CO&lt;sup&gt;2&lt;/sup&gt; would promote a system where it would have to pay more for power is beyond me.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Proof would be appreciated.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;A couple of other claims were also unusual to say the least.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Apparently world temperatures have plateaued since 1988 and not really risen since.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;I cannot reconcile this with the fact that the &lt;a href="http://www.skepticalscience.com/2011-Global-Climate-Status_WMO.html"&gt;warmest 13 years have all occurred since 1997&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;But his claim that ocean levels are not changing really caught my attention.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;He said:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #262626; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"&gt;Regarding sea levels, the highly accurate sea-level gauges installed around Australia and on the Pacific Islands (including Tuvalu) in the early 1990s showed that sea level rise is small - less than 3mm a year - and that, in recent years, it has levelled off. The 3mm a year is consistent with the sea-level rise that we have experienced since the end of the Little Ice Age. So the only strange thing that is happening is that we cannot explain why the sea level is no longer rising.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Coincidentally I had the opportunity to watch the documentary “&lt;a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1540074/"&gt;there once was an Island&lt;/a&gt;” last night.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;It is superb.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Climate change deniers like Brian ought to be strapped into chairs with their eyelids prised open and forced to watch it.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;It shows a traditional Pacific island community coming to terms with the effects on climate change and the rise of ocean levels have on their homeland, a low lying Pacific Island.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;The evidence, like the evidence world wide, was crystal clear.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Their homeland was slowly being swallowed up by the rise in the sea level.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The community response was illuminating.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;There was a village meeting where the proposal to settle on Papua New Guinea was discussed.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Some with regret thought it was the only option.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Others thought the Lord would save them.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; The elders could not contemplate change. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;There was no sign of any deniers like Brian at the meeting but the evidence of climate change was so clear that only the totally blind and insane could ignore it.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;The evidence came from the increase in the sea level, which was clearly rising and swallowing up their island.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The implications are huge.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;This was a documentary about a small village with maybe 50 inhabitants that was forced to relocate.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;There are billions of people who may have to move if the worst fears of climate change are realised.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The scenes of the families leaving their homeland are heartbreaking.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;The expert advice given to them by scientists is chilling. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Brian should watch this film and then try and persuade us why the human race should do nothing about what to me is clearly the world’s biggest threat.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!--EndFragment--&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/942819925463058432-2528836287543082467?l=waitakerenews.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/feeds/2528836287543082467/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=942819925463058432&amp;postID=2528836287543082467' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/2528836287543082467'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/2528836287543082467'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/2012/01/brian-leyland-should-watch-there-once.html' title='Brian Leyland should watch &quot;there once was an island&quot;'/><author><name>mickysavage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16293708548352713924</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_80M5EXfefKc/R-IovH7v_KI/AAAAAAAAABM/qQyaZJmhNCY/S220/mickysavage.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-M1JIEQSB5NE/TwixqAsMJ8I/AAAAAAAAATU/vbd5ixTSnOw/s72-c/The+once+was+an+island+poster.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942819925463058432.post-3224013928544652410</id><published>2012-01-03T10:59:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2012-01-03T10:59:24.552-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Maritime Workers Union - losing the propaganda war</title><content type='html'>&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-gH621j-f-TA/TwKpTUwdt5I/AAAAAAAAATM/aY6H2bin7r8/s1600/IMG_3387.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="213" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-gH621j-f-TA/TwKpTUwdt5I/AAAAAAAAATM/aY6H2bin7r8/s320/IMG_3387.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;There is nothing the right enjoys more than a good union bash. &amp;nbsp;It is something they have always done and it is something of a comfort thing for them. &amp;nbsp;When the world they control is imploding and feels like it is being steered over a crevasse they can always blame the Union Movement for their own inadequate leadership and the disasters they have caused.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The Auckland Waterside lockout has been receiving some attention from the right lately. &amp;nbsp;They have trotted out this wonderful well publicised attack line, the pesky waterside workers are on average earning $91,000 per annum so why do they need to strike? &amp;nbsp;As far as I can tell no where in the media has this figure been responded to or refuted so I thought I should check out the claims myself and try and work out what the reality is.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The first site I checked out was the &lt;a href="http://poal.co.nz/"&gt;Ports of Auckland website&lt;/a&gt;. &amp;nbsp;For an unknown reason they do not have the latest financial year's results up. &amp;nbsp;All they have is a very basic &lt;a href="http://poal.co.nz/news_media/publications/POAL%202010-2011%20Financial%20Highlights.pdf"&gt;financial highlights sheet&lt;/a&gt; that discloses very little.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The 2010 &lt;a href="http://www.poal.co.nz/news_media/publications/POAL_financial_review_2010.pdf"&gt;financial&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://www.poal.co.nz/news_media/publications/POAL_Annual_Review_2010.pdf"&gt;annual&lt;/a&gt; reports were up. &amp;nbsp;There were 573 full time equivalent employees and to them&amp;nbsp;was paid a total of $51.94 million for "employee benefits expense, including restructuring costs and termination benefits." &amp;nbsp;Presumably this includes redundancy payments and the like. &amp;nbsp;Neither report comments on changes in staffing levels nor does it set out bands of salaries which you see in many Government Entity financial reports. &amp;nbsp;The average figure per FTE is $90,200 which is close to the publicly bandied figure.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Two conclusions that can be drawn are as follows:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;1. &amp;nbsp;The payment per employee definitely is larger than what was paid in wages.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;2. &amp;nbsp;The payment per employee would also be inflated by payments to management. &amp;nbsp;The chief executive for instance would probably be on a payment in the high 6 figures to low 7 figures. &amp;nbsp;As &lt;a href="http://thestandard.org.nz/summer-service-open-mike-01012012/#comment-422267"&gt;has been eloquently said elsewhere&lt;/a&gt; averages get distorted by high earners, a much better measure is the median payment received by POAL workers.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;I cannot access figures for recent change in FTEs although &lt;a href="http://www.poal.co.nz/news_media/publications/POAL_port_development_plan_2008.pdf"&gt;in 2008 the figure was described&lt;/a&gt; as "over 600". &amp;nbsp;It may be that some redundancy payments were included in the line item mentioned.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;It appears that the &lt;a href="http://www.munz.org.nz/2010/03/08/maritime-workers-gear-up-to-resist-ports-of-auckland-outsourcing/"&gt;Maritime Workers Union&lt;/a&gt; represents about 150 workers on the wharf. &amp;nbsp;You can be pretty sure that these would not include higher paid management sorts.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Cactus Kate has some more accurate looking figures &lt;a href="http://asianinvasion2006.blogspot.com/2011/12/dirty-rich-prick-wharfies.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The figures look superficially authentic and if so they probably were leaked by the company. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The only problem is that they are not sourced and you cannot tell their veracity or if they are actually measuring wages as opposed to employee expenses. &amp;nbsp;For instance a raft of redundancies could have escalated up the average payment. &amp;nbsp;This did not stop the &lt;a href="http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2011/12/union-rich-pricks/"&gt;usual&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2011/12/poor_striking_stevedores.html"&gt;suspects&lt;/a&gt; from having a go.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The Union responded by &lt;a href="http://www.munz.org.nz/2011/12/23/maritime-union-notifies-new-year-industrial-action-at-ports-of-auckland/"&gt;criticizing the Company&lt;/a&gt; for circulating "misinformation about wages, conditions and port productivity to hostile employers organizations and political bloggers".&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The major cause of the dispute as far as the union is concerned is the&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1112/S00293/contracting-out-behind-ports-of-auckland-dispute.htm"&gt;attempted casualisation&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;of the entire workforce and the way the company has conducted negotiations. &amp;nbsp;The wage increase of itself appears to be something that can be agreed upon.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;To be frank the publicity effort by the Union has been poor. &amp;nbsp;It should respond with detail to the allegations and counter Cactus Kate's figures. &amp;nbsp;Failing to do so hands the publicity battle to the right on a plate.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Although if Cactus Kate is intent on hunting down and opening up for ridicule those who are overly rewarded for doing a paucity of work &lt;a href="http://www.ml.com/index.asp?id=7695_15125"&gt;I know just where she should start&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/942819925463058432-3224013928544652410?l=waitakerenews.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/feeds/3224013928544652410/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=942819925463058432&amp;postID=3224013928544652410' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/3224013928544652410'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/3224013928544652410'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/2012/01/maritime-workers-union-losing.html' title='Maritime Workers Union - losing the propaganda war'/><author><name>mickysavage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16293708548352713924</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_80M5EXfefKc/R-IovH7v_KI/AAAAAAAAABM/qQyaZJmhNCY/S220/mickysavage.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-gH621j-f-TA/TwKpTUwdt5I/AAAAAAAAATM/aY6H2bin7r8/s72-c/IMG_3387.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942819925463058432.post-4716847394484069359</id><published>2011-12-30T13:19:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-12-30T19:56:46.491-08:00</updated><title type='text'>The many and varied ways Waitakere electors split their votes</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-RKaS7wSiIEA/Tv4exu7fqPI/AAAAAAAAAS0/_Me4GALx1s4/s1600/Paula+Bennett+protest+photo.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="320" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-RKaS7wSiIEA/Tv4exu7fqPI/AAAAAAAAAS0/_Me4GALx1s4/s320/Paula+Bennett+protest+photo.jpg" width="212" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;My last post for this year is a further comment on what happened with the almost successful Waitakere campaign.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The &lt;a href="http://electionresults.govt.nz/electionresults_2011/e9/html/statistics.html"&gt;E9 results&lt;/a&gt; are out now and make for interesting reading, particularly the figures relating to the &lt;a href="http://electionresults.govt.nz/electionresults_2011/elect-splitvote-57.html"&gt;way voters split their votes in the Waitakere electorate&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The first impression you get from the figures is how many Kiwis split their votes. &amp;nbsp;They obviously want to share the love around, they do not want one party to have too much power and they want to be fair. &amp;nbsp;They are also acting like good consumers and will try a bit of this with a bit of that. &amp;nbsp;I am not surprised that they should have with such a significant margin decided to retain MMP.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;In Waitakere it is very clear to see the consequence. &amp;nbsp;A 9 vote loss to Carmel Sepuloni in what would have been the biggest boil over of the election if she had succeeded.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;With such a close margin it is clear that the little things count. &amp;nbsp;A slightly more favourable Green party vote split would have been enough to change the result.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The Greens attracted 3,308 party votes in the 2011 election. &amp;nbsp;Of these voters 50.8% or 1,680 voted for Sepuloni. &amp;nbsp;But 13% or 429 voted for Bennett. &amp;nbsp;This is an unusual combination. &amp;nbsp;National despite protestations to the contrary is not an environmental party and in fact has done its best to undermine many policy areas fundamental to Green thinking. &amp;nbsp;The Emissions Trading Scheme is a pale imitation of what it used to be, our waterways are being destroyed by the unchecked behavior of dairy farmers and Bennett was a vocal opponent to the Waitakere Ranges Heritage Area Act 2008.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Rather bizarrely 438 Labour voters also voted for Bennett. &amp;nbsp;Some people took the right to vote for the candidate of their choice to unusual extremes.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The number of Green voters supporting Sepuloni is disappointingly low. &amp;nbsp;In other key marginals the Labour candidate enjoyed significantly greater support from Green split voting. &amp;nbsp;In Auckland Central 63% of Green party voters voted for Ardern, in the West Coast 64.2% voted for Labour's Damian O'Connor, in Wellington Central the figure was 62% for Robertson and in Christchurch Central the figure was 56.3% for Brendan Burns. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;One other factor that may be relevant is that in Waitakere the Labour Party vote stayed very solid, decreasing only by 2.6 percentage points. &amp;nbsp;In the other marginals the Labour party vote loss was significant. &amp;nbsp;In West Coast it was 6 percentage points, in Auckland Central a jaw dropping 9.4 percentage points and in Wellington Central 8 percentage points and in Christchurch Central 10 percentage points. &amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/2011/12/aucklands-election-result-was-not-so.html"&gt;As I previously noted&lt;/a&gt; Auckland Central's result was by far the worst in the region. &amp;nbsp;The lesson may be that if you go too aggressively for the electorate vote the party vote will be adversely affected. &amp;nbsp;This could suggest that Waitakere's noble and correct emphasis on the Candidate vote AND the Party vote kept more Labour Party votes in the fold.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;So what went wrong? &amp;nbsp;Greens candidate Steve Tollestrup stood up at a meeting that I attended and said unambiguously that he endorsed Carmel Sepuloni. &amp;nbsp;This was also &lt;a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;amp;objectid=10752085"&gt;reported&lt;/a&gt; in the Herald. &amp;nbsp;There was then an attempt to resile from this and a suggestion that some sort of Head Office approval was required. &amp;nbsp;For whatever reason it did not happen. &amp;nbsp;I am sure a few people are ruing this lost opportunity.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;And Sue Bradford's vote, small as it was, was important. &amp;nbsp;Her 322 votes would have all been anti Bennett votes.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The job for Waitakere Labour is to regroup, get organised and do it all again. &amp;nbsp;I understand that Carmel is favorably disposed to running again and this would be a good thing. &amp;nbsp;She needs to keep her profile up and work to improve membership and resources.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;And Bennett? &amp;nbsp;She is clearly on borrowed time. &amp;nbsp;The next three years will need to be spent by all good westie progressives organising to make sure that she gets a send off in 2014.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/942819925463058432-4716847394484069359?l=waitakerenews.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/feeds/4716847394484069359/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=942819925463058432&amp;postID=4716847394484069359' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/4716847394484069359'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/4716847394484069359'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/2011/12/many-and-varied-ways-waitakere-electors.html' title='The many and varied ways Waitakere electors split their votes'/><author><name>mickysavage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16293708548352713924</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_80M5EXfefKc/R-IovH7v_KI/AAAAAAAAABM/qQyaZJmhNCY/S220/mickysavage.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-RKaS7wSiIEA/Tv4exu7fqPI/AAAAAAAAAS0/_Me4GALx1s4/s72-c/Paula+Bennett+protest+photo.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942819925463058432.post-8523870439689669340</id><published>2011-12-21T21:54:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-12-21T21:55:13.016-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Where did all Labour's votes go?</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-UBM5_vtLFlk/TvLFT5ljHXI/AAAAAAAAASo/Sgtq_3wYN-E/s1600/Winston+Peters.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="213" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-UBM5_vtLFlk/TvLFT5ljHXI/AAAAAAAAASo/Sgtq_3wYN-E/s320/Winston+Peters.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;I recommend entrail gazing for all activists at the conclusion of an election campaign.  There is no better way to deal with the adrenalin withdrawal after a campaign.  If it was a successful one then the lessons can be repeated, if it was an unsuccessful one then the lessons learned can hopefully be remembered next time.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt; &lt;br /&gt;I &lt;a href="http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/2011/12/aucklands-election-result-was-not-so.html"&gt;blogged previously&lt;/a&gt; about Labour's performance in the 2011 general election.  It was not good.  Nationally Labour lost 6.5 percentage points on its 2008 result.  In Auckland it was a more respectable 2.6%.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In fact in Auckland the forces of the left did reasonably well.  The Green vote went up by 3.6 percentage points so the forces of good actually had an increase.  NZ First also had an increase of 2.8 percentage points so overall the anti Government vote went well.  National's vote increased by 0.8 percentage points compared to a nationwide increase of 2.4 points but ACT did badly, so essentially the forces of the right went backward in Auckland.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What is really interesting is the performance of the Green Party in the Auckland electorates.  The following is a table showing the performance of the party in the Auckland General Electorate seats:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="border-collapse: collapse; width: 219px;"&gt;&lt;colgroup&gt;&lt;col style="mso-width-alt: 3968; mso-width-source: userset; width: 93pt;" width="93"&gt;&lt;/col&gt;  &lt;col style="mso-width-alt: 5376; mso-width-source: userset; width: 126pt;" width="126"&gt;&lt;/col&gt;  &lt;/colgroup&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;   &lt;td class="xl63" height="15" style="height: 15.0pt; width: 93pt;" width="93"&gt;Electorate&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td class="xl64" style="width: 126pt;" width="126"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Change in Green %&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;   &lt;td height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;Auckland Central&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td align="right" class="xl64"&gt;7.33%&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;   &lt;td height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;Mt Albert&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td align="right" class="xl64"&gt;6.15%&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;   &lt;td height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;New Lynn&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td align="right" class="xl64"&gt;5.68%&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;   &lt;td height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;Epsom&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td align="right" class="xl64"&gt;5.10%&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;   &lt;td height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;Northcote&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td align="right" class="xl64"&gt;4.25%&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;   &lt;td height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;North Shore&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td align="right" class="xl64"&gt;4.24%&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;   &lt;td height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;Waitakere&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td align="right" class="xl64"&gt;4.16%&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;   &lt;td height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;Maungakiekie&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td align="right" class="xl64"&gt;4.04%&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;   &lt;td height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;East Coast Bays&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td align="right" class="xl64"&gt;3.99%&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;   &lt;td height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;Helensville&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td align="right" class="xl64"&gt;3.74%&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;   &lt;td height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;Tamaki&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td align="right" class="xl64"&gt;3.48%&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;   &lt;td height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;Rodney&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td align="right" class="xl64"&gt;3.29%&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;   &lt;td height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;Te Atatu&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td align="right" class="xl64"&gt;3.23%&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;   &lt;td height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;Mt Roskill&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td align="right" class="xl64"&gt;2.99%&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;   &lt;td height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;Pakuranga&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td align="right" class="xl64"&gt;2.61%&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;   &lt;td height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;Papakura&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td align="right" class="xl64"&gt;2.50%&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;   &lt;td height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;Botany&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td align="right" class="xl64"&gt;2.01%&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;   &lt;td height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;Mangere&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td align="right" class="xl64"&gt;1.81%&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;   &lt;td height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;Manurewa&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td align="right" class="xl64"&gt;1.69%&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;   &lt;td height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;Manukau East&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td align="right" class="xl64"&gt;1.60%&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;   &lt;td height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;Hunua&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td align="right" class="xl64"&gt;-0.15%&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What is apparent is that the wealthier the electorate the greater the increase in the Green party vote.  Despite impressions to the contrary Mount Albert and New Lynn are reasonably wealthy electorates and are Labour strongholds despite this. It is very clear that Labour shed support to the Greens in the middle classes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What is also interesting is the Green performance in the rest of the country.  The standout performance must be in Wellington Central where there were more Green party votes than Labour Party votes.  I can confidently say that Labour has never lost to the greens in the party vote in an electorate before and Labour needs to have a good look at electorates where there was an undue emphasis on the electorate vote to the detriment of the party vote. &amp;nbsp;In that seat the Greens gained 7.1 percentage points while Labour shed 8.  In Christchurch Central the Greens gained 5 percentage points while Labour shed 10 and in both Dunedin seats the Greens gained 7.1 percentage points while Labour shed 10.3.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To summarise in Auckland again the Labour-Green vote actually increased but in the other central city electorates the opposite happened.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The NZ First increase is more difficult to describe and did not follow any readily discernible pattern.  The following table sets out the change in the Auckland Urban General Electorate seats:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="border-collapse: collapse; width: 219px;"&gt;&lt;colgroup&gt;&lt;col style="mso-width-alt: 3968; mso-width-source: userset; width: 93pt;" width="93"&gt;&lt;/col&gt;  &lt;col style="mso-width-alt: 5376; mso-width-source: userset; width: 126pt;" width="126"&gt;&lt;/col&gt;  &lt;/colgroup&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;   &lt;td class="xl64" height="15" style="height: 15.0pt; width: 93pt;" width="93"&gt;Electorate&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td class="xl65" style="width: 126pt;" width="126"&gt;Change in NZ First %&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;   &lt;td height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;Papakura&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td align="right" class="xl63"&gt;3.40%&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;   &lt;td height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;Hunua&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td align="right" class="xl63"&gt;3.04%&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;   &lt;td height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;Waitakere&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td align="right" class="xl63"&gt;2.91%&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;   &lt;td height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;Manurewa&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td align="right" class="xl63"&gt;2.83%&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;   &lt;td height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;Manukau East&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td align="right" class="xl63"&gt;2.64%&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;   &lt;td height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;New Lynn&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td align="right" class="xl63"&gt;2.62%&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;   &lt;td height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;Te Atatu&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td align="right" class="xl63"&gt;2.56%&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;   &lt;td height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;Mangere&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td align="right" class="xl63"&gt;2.55%&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;   &lt;td height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;Northcote&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td align="right" class="xl63"&gt;2.48%&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;   &lt;td height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;Rodney&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td align="right" class="xl63"&gt;2.44%&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;   &lt;td height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;Botany&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td align="right" class="xl63"&gt;2.26%&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;   &lt;td height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;Maungakiekie&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td align="right" class="xl63"&gt;2.23%&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;   &lt;td height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;Pakuranga&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td align="right" class="xl63"&gt;2.18%&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;   &lt;td height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;East Coast Bays&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td align="right" class="xl63"&gt;2.11%&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;   &lt;td height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;Helensville&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td align="right" class="xl63"&gt;2.06%&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;   &lt;td height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;North Shore&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td align="right" class="xl63"&gt;1.92%&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;   &lt;td height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;Mt Roskill&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td align="right" class="xl63"&gt;1.88%&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;   &lt;td height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;Mt Albert&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td align="right" class="xl63"&gt;1.85%&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;   &lt;td height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;Auckland Central&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td align="right" class="xl63"&gt;1.81%&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;   &lt;td height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;Tamaki&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td align="right" class="xl63"&gt;1.29%&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;   &lt;td height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;Epsom&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td align="right" class="xl63"&gt;1.16%&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The only pattern I can readily discern from this is that the greater distance the seat was away from Auckland Central the greater the swing was towards NZ first.  The change could also be explained as people in the poorer areas being more inclined to give Winston Peters a go.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Auckland overal swing of 2.3 percentage points was closely matched by Wellington (1.9), Christchurch (2.1) and Dunedin (2.4).  Winston's support really seems to be amongst sectors of the population rather than from geographical areas. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So what does Labour do?  The biggest threat that it faces from the Greens is amongst the more urban middle class voters who are now prepared to support the new look Green Party.  It is strange really, I much preferred the Jeanette Fitzsimonds/Rod Donald earthy solid led Greens to the Metiria Turei/Russell Norman version but their positioning away from social justice issues may have made them more acceptable to the urban elite.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/942819925463058432-8523870439689669340?l=waitakerenews.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/feeds/8523870439689669340/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=942819925463058432&amp;postID=8523870439689669340' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/8523870439689669340'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/8523870439689669340'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/2011/12/where-did-all-labours-votes-go.html' title='Where did all Labour&apos;s votes go?'/><author><name>mickysavage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16293708548352713924</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_80M5EXfefKc/R-IovH7v_KI/AAAAAAAAABM/qQyaZJmhNCY/S220/mickysavage.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-UBM5_vtLFlk/TvLFT5ljHXI/AAAAAAAAASo/Sgtq_3wYN-E/s72-c/Winston+Peters.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942819925463058432.post-4202990512013682594</id><published>2011-12-19T09:23:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-12-19T18:33:33.561-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Herald and Farrar, say after me, there is no evidence of electoral fraud</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/--VR_d5cDPNg/Tu7nImx4RVI/AAAAAAAAASc/RnXYAG7lhYk/s1600/nz-polling-booth.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="202" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/--VR_d5cDPNg/Tu7nImx4RVI/AAAAAAAAASc/RnXYAG7lhYk/s320/nz-polling-booth.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Sunday Herald this week was disappointing.  In an article headed "&lt;a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&amp;amp;objectid=10773840"&gt;Questions over Waitakere Vote&lt;/a&gt;" the first sentence said "[e]vidence of dodgy voting has emerged in the battle for Waitakere." This proposition was based on the claim that nine people voted twice and 393 people voted despite not being on the roll.  This was picked up by National blogger David Farrar who &lt;a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2011/12/waitakere.html"&gt;reported the article&lt;/a&gt; without commenting on the merits of what was said.  This of course allowed the Kiwiblog regulars to spew vile and opine that this was evidence of widespread electoral fraud by the Labour Party.  If only they would try to understand how the electoral system works, rather than launch into an attempt to smear.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;National lawyer Peter Kiley suggested that the change may have occurred because some people may have made a mark instead of ticking the preferred candidate.  With respect all votes where the intention of the voter was clear were allowed.  The voting papers were peered over by a competent team of workers with the oversight of District Court Judge Adams and the process cannot be faulted.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The main problem was that 7 votes in a Fruitvale School pile of Carmel Sepuloni votes actually included three Paula Bennett votes, three Steve Tollestrup votes and one for Sue Bradford.  This resulted in an immediate ten vote swing.  After that there were swings of one or two votes in each pile of votes either way but unfortunately they went against Carmel.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The different categories should have been described properly.  The biggest group was the 393 disallowed special votes.  The Herald article breathlessly said that these were the votes of people who "voted despite not being on the electoral roll."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Some understanding of the system would help.  People go to the polls without an encyclopedic knowledge of the legal requirements.  They hope to be able to vote.  If they front up and find they are not on the roll then they are offered a special vote.  Of course many take up this opportunity.  There is a good chance their vote will be accepted.  For instance if they enrolled after the close of the rolls but before voting day they can vote.  If they were on the roll in 2008 and certain other requirements are met they can vote.  For a full description you should read &lt;a href="http://legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1993/0087/latest/DLM308567.html"&gt;section 61 of the Electoral Act 1993&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Of the special votes cast in Waitakere about 90% were allowed. The rest could not be qualified under any of the various categories despite an exhaustive search.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is not unusual. In 2008 for instance there were &lt;a href="http://electionresults.govt.nz/electionresults_2008/e9/html/e9_part10_3.html"&gt;374 votes&lt;/a&gt; disallowed for the same reason. This is not evidence of electoral fraud.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The votes disallowed for "no witness signature" are essentially examples of sloppy paper work.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The 9 dual votes could as easily be evidence of human frailty or a mistaken desire to make sure their vote counted as they could of voter fraud. In any event there is no clue who these invalid votes were for.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is evidence of the National Party building a meme. Paula Bennett's &lt;a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&amp;amp;objectid=10772394"&gt;outburst&lt;/a&gt; suggesting that Labour had engaged in a "negative and vicious" campaign by enlisting union help and door knocking on election day is further evidence of this.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Making sure that people are on the roll to vote and are reminded to exercise their democratic rights is not "negative and vicious".  That Paula thinks so suggests strongly that she thinks she is entitled to the seat as a matter of right.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;UPDATE:&amp;nbsp; For those interested the original decision can be read &lt;a href="https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&amp;amp;pid=explorer&amp;amp;chrome=true&amp;amp;srcid=0B-2M3SS1zQ4XMjQ1MTE2OGItNzZjMy00Y2NiLWFhOGUtMTZmYzYwYTZhY2Zj&amp;amp;hl=en_US"&gt;here &lt;/a&gt;and Judge Adams subsequent decision can be read &lt;a href="https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&amp;amp;pid=explorer&amp;amp;chrome=true&amp;amp;srcid=0B-2M3SS1zQ4XNGI2M2I3Y2EtNzk2NC00YThlLTgyYjEtMDZmZmIwZDBmMmM3&amp;amp;hl=en_US"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;nbsp; The subsequent decision is elegantly written and shows how much care was put into the recount.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' 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fraud'/><author><name>mickysavage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16293708548352713924</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_80M5EXfefKc/R-IovH7v_KI/AAAAAAAAABM/qQyaZJmhNCY/S220/mickysavage.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/--VR_d5cDPNg/Tu7nImx4RVI/AAAAAAAAASc/RnXYAG7lhYk/s72-c/nz-polling-booth.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>8</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942819925463058432.post-828857474976184393</id><published>2011-12-17T12:17:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-12-17T17:20:27.740-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Is New Zealand Politics being taken over by the Commentariat?</title><content type='html'>&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;There was a &lt;a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&amp;amp;objectid=10773689"&gt;disturbing Fran O'Sullivan column&lt;/a&gt; in a recent Herald.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;It is worth reading in full but there are a number of matters of concern.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Firstly David Shearer says he owes no one any favors and has done no deals when it is clear that deals have been done. &amp;nbsp;They are already known, David Parker will be finance spokesperson, Jacinda Ardern and Shane Jones are on the front bench, Stuart Nash will be chief of staff, and Trevor Mallard will retain a position of responsibility. &amp;nbsp;It is also apparent that Robertson is the one doing the deals. &amp;nbsp;This is a mistake. &amp;nbsp;If there is an "A" team and a "B" team then Caucus relations will not be good.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Apparently Shearer's campaign was planned months ago and "[i]&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 18px;"&gt;nfluential members of the "commentariat" - particularly those of the right-of-centre persuasion - were informally briefed." &amp;nbsp;O'Sullivan goes on to add&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 18px;"&gt;"Shearer&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 18px;"&gt;was promoted as having a modern international outlook; pro-business, pro-science and innovation, and not prone to the phony cloth-cap ideology that Goff had to dip into to retain the confidence of the Labour unionists who have for too long dominated the party." &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 18px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 18px;"&gt;Well it is the Labour party. &amp;nbsp;Members would be aghast at any attempt to turn Labour into some sort of National lite and to somehow forget the very deep and important history of the party.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 18px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 18px;"&gt;O'Sullivan then says that Shearer is the person who will "&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 18px;"&gt;drag Labour into the 21st century and out of its ideological cul-de-sac." &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 18px;"&gt;You really have to worry when a right wing commentator is supportive of the direction that a new leader wants to take the party in.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 18px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 18px;"&gt;What is really interesting is the role of bloggers in the campaign. &amp;nbsp;Conor Roberts is credited with creating the line that Key may have saved 50 million dollars but Shearer saved 50 million lives. &amp;nbsp;O'Sullivan noted that right wing bloggers were the first to "&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 18px;"&gt;start spouting this rather over-drawn claim once Shearer's candidacy was declared".&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 18px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 18px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;She also mentions the claims that Cunliffe undermined Goff during the campaign by not briefing him. &amp;nbsp;Goff was not able to recall the amount of tax income the CGT would produce in the first year that it actually did generate income. &amp;nbsp;The figure had been available for months. &amp;nbsp;The claim this was sabotage by Cunliffe is not only clearly wrong but so wrong it has to be malicious.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 18px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 18px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The clear impression is that the sudden publicity surge behind a Shearer leadership campaign was orchestrated across the left and right wing. &amp;nbsp;This is disturbing. &amp;nbsp;Has New Zealand politics been reduced to a group of powerful people holding sway over different political parties and being able to exercise significant influence over them?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 18px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 18px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;But what is really disturbing is that now that the job has succeeded the right wing bloggers have obviously leaked all of this information out. &amp;nbsp;It has the potential to destabilize Shearer and cause divisions in the party. &amp;nbsp;Clearly the only safe course for any Labour politician is to never ever think about engaging with the right wing for political advantage.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/942819925463058432-828857474976184393?l=waitakerenews.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/feeds/828857474976184393/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=942819925463058432&amp;postID=828857474976184393' title='6 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/828857474976184393'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/828857474976184393'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/2011/12/is-new-zealand-politics-being-taken.html' title='Is New Zealand Politics being taken over by the Commentariat?'/><author><name>mickysavage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16293708548352713924</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_80M5EXfefKc/R-IovH7v_KI/AAAAAAAAABM/qQyaZJmhNCY/S220/mickysavage.jpg'/></author><thr:total>6</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942819925463058432.post-5539976928499743281</id><published>2011-12-15T23:52:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-12-16T01:01:41.321-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Bugger ...</title><content type='html'>&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-NBIEkAUVum0/TusIrdJ1NXI/AAAAAAAAASU/shIZwVGhBME/s1600/Labour+Carmel+Sepuloni+pacifica+festival+%25281%2529.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="213" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-NBIEkAUVum0/TusIrdJ1NXI/AAAAAAAAASU/shIZwVGhBME/s320/Labour+Carmel+Sepuloni+pacifica+festival+%25281%2529.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Today's &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;amp;objectid=10773368"&gt;announcement&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt; of the Judicial Recount for the Waitakere Seat provided disappointing news. &amp;nbsp;Labour Carmel Sepuloni has lost by 9 votes. &amp;nbsp;A miscount in the Fruitvale School booth obliterated Carmel's advantage and recounting of other booths gave pseudo westie Paula Bennett the thinnest of margins.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Commiserations to Carmel and her group of activists. &amp;nbsp;To almost win the seat against a senior Cabinet Minister and against the tide was a tremendous result.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Paula should think about her future though. &amp;nbsp;It is apparent to me that the seat will return to Labour next time. &amp;nbsp;Carmel has expressed an interest in standing again and with the local organisation solidly behind her the seat is hers for the taking.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;If Carmel wants to mount an Electoral Petition she needs to file within 28 days of the announcement of the decision. &amp;nbsp;She needs to decide soon.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;An interesting view has been expressed. &amp;nbsp;Graeme Edgeler, well know lawyer specialising in Electoral Law has &lt;a href="http://publicaddress.net/legalbeagle/paulas-peril-or-the-uncertain-scenario/"&gt;suggested&lt;/a&gt; that if Carmel won a petition then Paula would not only not be returned to Parliament as the electorate candidate, she would not take a list seat and National in effect would lose a seat.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;If this is the result there must be a big temptation for Labour to think about a petition. &amp;nbsp;If they succeed and this is true then National's majority is gone ...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/942819925463058432-5539976928499743281?l=waitakerenews.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/feeds/5539976928499743281/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=942819925463058432&amp;postID=5539976928499743281' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/5539976928499743281'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/5539976928499743281'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/2011/12/bugger.html' title='Bugger ...'/><author><name>mickysavage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16293708548352713924</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_80M5EXfefKc/R-IovH7v_KI/AAAAAAAAABM/qQyaZJmhNCY/S220/mickysavage.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-NBIEkAUVum0/TusIrdJ1NXI/AAAAAAAAASU/shIZwVGhBME/s72-c/Labour+Carmel+Sepuloni+pacifica+festival+%25281%2529.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942819925463058432.post-2322686257042934023</id><published>2011-12-12T09:55:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-12-12T09:55:34.024-08:00</updated><title type='text'>The Labour Party is a bit like Scotland</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; color: black; font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10px; margin-bottom: 8px; margin-left: 8px; margin-right: 8px; margin-top: 8px;"&gt;&lt;div style="font-size: 1.4em !important;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-puHjcMKvDzQ/TuY_Leoy8qI/AAAAAAAAASE/QCNV2aYgx4o/s1600/braveheart.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-puHjcMKvDzQ/TuY_Leoy8qI/AAAAAAAAASE/QCNV2aYgx4o/s1600/braveheart.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-size: 1.4em !important;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-size: 1.4em !important;"&gt;The current leadership campaign has many similarities to the film Braveheart. &amp;nbsp;Labour has its own William Wallace, someone who is on top of his game and ready to take the battle to the enemy. &amp;nbsp;Already in his career he has bested in debate English lords including Blinglish and Joyce. &amp;nbsp;And there is this groundswell amongst ordinary members in support of this candidate reminiscent of the way that Wallace was able to unite the Scottish Clans.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;People will remember that his campaign ended in disaster. &amp;nbsp;Lords such as Falkirk and Peebles succumbed to the promise of grants of land and withdrew support at the very time that the battle could have been won. &amp;nbsp;They were motivated not by the interests of Scotland but by personal gain.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And Scotland eventually won its freedom but many years later than it should have.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Today I hope that Labour MPs think about the interests of the party as a whole and listen to the overwhelming voice of members. &amp;nbsp;I hope they consider what skills are required to take the battle to National and in particular Key. &amp;nbsp;They need someone of intellect, someone who understands economics backwards and who will skewer Key every time he tries his spin. &amp;nbsp;They also need someone with passion, someone able to energise members and take the battle to National now.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-size: 1.4em !important;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-size: 1.4em !important;"&gt;Their decision today is probably the most important decision that they will make in their careers. &amp;nbsp;The future of our party is at stake.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/942819925463058432-2322686257042934023?l=waitakerenews.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/feeds/2322686257042934023/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=942819925463058432&amp;postID=2322686257042934023' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/2322686257042934023'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/2322686257042934023'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/2011/12/labour-party-is-bit-like-scotland.html' title='The Labour Party is a bit like Scotland'/><author><name>mickysavage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16293708548352713924</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_80M5EXfefKc/R-IovH7v_KI/AAAAAAAAABM/qQyaZJmhNCY/S220/mickysavage.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-puHjcMKvDzQ/TuY_Leoy8qI/AAAAAAAAASE/QCNV2aYgx4o/s72-c/braveheart.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942819925463058432.post-9217713662879251446</id><published>2011-12-10T13:30:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-12-10T13:30:52.475-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Auckland's election result was not so bad</title><content type='html'>&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-pBmgysYWjvM/TuPKwRN_dEI/AAAAAAAAAR8/LZY4hhwE9-U/s1600/Labour+Auckland+Campaign+meeting.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="213" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-pBmgysYWjvM/TuPKwRN_dEI/AAAAAAAAAR8/LZY4hhwE9-U/s320/Labour+Auckland+Campaign+meeting.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://electionresults.govt.nz/electionresults_2011/partystatus.html"&gt;election result figures&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt; are finally in. &amp;nbsp;At 27.5% of the popular vote Labour's result is the worst since the 1930s although not that much worse than 1996's 28.2%.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;National is up slightly by 2.4 percentage points but obviously at the cost of ACT who slumped 2.6 points.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Nationally Labour 's vote decreased by 6.5 percentage points. &amp;nbsp;But in Auckland (urban general electorates) the party performed relatively well and the vote decreased only by 2.6 points. &amp;nbsp;This was more than compensated for by the increase in the Green vote (3.6%) and the NZ First vote (2.3%). &amp;nbsp;National's vote increased slightly (0.8%) but with the decimation of ACT the NACT vote actually went backwards.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;There were some stunning results, particularly in South Auckland where Labour's share of the vote increased by 10.2% in Mangere, 7.3% in Manukau East and 5.2% in Manurewa. &amp;nbsp;And in Phil Goff's Mount Roskill it increased by 1%. &amp;nbsp;These were very good results in an election where the tide was going out.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The following table sets out the movement of Labour's party vote in the various seats and nationally:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="border-collapse: collapse; width: 172px;"&gt;&lt;!--StartFragment--&gt;  &lt;colgroup&gt;&lt;col style="mso-width-alt: 4565; mso-width-source: userset; width: 107pt;" width="107"&gt;&lt;/col&gt;  &lt;col style="width: 65pt;" width="65"&gt;&lt;/col&gt;  &lt;/colgroup&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;   &lt;td class="xl63" height="15" style="height: 15.0pt; width: 107pt;" width="107"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Nationwide&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td align="right" class="xl67" style="width: 65pt;" width="65"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;-6.5%&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;   &lt;td height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Mangere&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td align="right" class="xl65"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;10.2%&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;   &lt;td height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Manukau East&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td align="right" class="xl65"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;7.4%&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;   &lt;td height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Manurewa&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td align="right" class="xl65"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;5.2%&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;   &lt;td height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Mt Roskill&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td align="right" class="xl65"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;1.0%&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;   &lt;td height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Botany&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td align="right" class="xl65"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;-0.7%&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;   &lt;td height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Papakura&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td align="right" class="xl65"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;-2.1%&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;   &lt;td height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Waitakere&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td align="right" class="xl65"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;-2.6%&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;   &lt;td height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Te Atatu&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td align="right" class="xl65"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;-2.6%&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;   &lt;td height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Maungakiekie&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td align="right" class="xl65"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;-2.7%&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;   &lt;td height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;New Lynn&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td align="right" class="xl65"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;-3.3%&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;   &lt;td height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Tamaki&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td align="right" class="xl65"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;-3.6%&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;   &lt;td height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Hunua&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td align="right" class="xl65"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;-3.6%&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;   &lt;td height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Pakuranga&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td align="right" class="xl65"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;-3.7%&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;   &lt;td height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Helensville&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td align="right" class="xl65"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;-4.1%&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;   &lt;td height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;East Coast Bays&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td align="right" class="xl65"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;-4.4%&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;   &lt;td height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Epsom&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td align="right" class="xl65"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;-4.5%&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;   &lt;td height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Northcote&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td align="right" class="xl65"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;-4.7%&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;   &lt;td height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;North Shore&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td align="right" class="xl65"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;-5.2%&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;   &lt;td height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Mt Albert&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td align="right" class="xl65"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;-5.5%&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;   &lt;td height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Rodney&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td align="right" class="xl65"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;-7.2%&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;   &lt;td height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Auckland Central&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td align="right" class="xl65"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;-9.4%&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;   &lt;td class="xl64" height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td align="right" class="xl66"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;!--EndFragment--&gt; &lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Auckland Central's result may be a reflection of the tight candidate race that occurred there. &amp;nbsp;Voters may have given Jacinda Ardern their candidate vote at the expense of the party vote. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;A comparison with other urban centers provides some interesting results. &amp;nbsp;In Wellington the Labour vote shed 7.3 percentage points, in Christchurch the figure was 10.2% and in Dunedin a jaw dropping 10.3%. &amp;nbsp;Christchurch could be explained by the earthquakes and the displacement caused but Dunedin's result will need further analysis.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Why was the Auckland figure better? &amp;nbsp;A number of reasons spring to mind. &amp;nbsp;These include the disaster that is Super city, Labour's proposal to partially fund the inner city loop, and an energetic effort by activists over the past three years. &amp;nbsp;Certainly the seats with the greatest activity enjoyed the best results. &amp;nbsp;South Auckland clearly returned to the fold. &amp;nbsp;At the last election its turnout was muted by the anti smacking legislation and a series of high profile murders in the area that caused law and order to be a major issue. &amp;nbsp;The "Street Captain" scheme put in place by the Service and Food Workers Union also would have helped.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;No doubt more detailed analysis of the results will occur and conclusions will be drawn. &amp;nbsp;But the Auckland result is a glimmer of light for Labour and raises some possible courses of 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href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/2011/12/aucklands-election-result-was-not-so.html' title='Auckland&apos;s election result was not so bad'/><author><name>mickysavage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16293708548352713924</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_80M5EXfefKc/R-IovH7v_KI/AAAAAAAAABM/qQyaZJmhNCY/S220/mickysavage.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-pBmgysYWjvM/TuPKwRN_dEI/AAAAAAAAAR8/LZY4hhwE9-U/s72-c/Labour+Auckland+Campaign+meeting.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942819925463058432.post-6274866385359902110</id><published>2011-12-08T21:24:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-12-09T19:39:56.276-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Waitakere - the closest of margins</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-6wCuMlZccqU/TuGbYAzrczI/AAAAAAAAAR0/qUT1fCrgLZ4/s1600/Carmel+Sepuloni.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="213" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-6wCuMlZccqU/TuGbYAzrczI/AAAAAAAAAR0/qUT1fCrgLZ4/s320/Carmel+Sepuloni.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Waitakere has been a fascinating seat to watch. &amp;nbsp;It was targeted as a "must win" seat for Labour. &amp;nbsp;If they are going to regain power in the near future then seats like Waitakere need to be returned to the fold.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;It was the most marginal of the Auckland seats and last time Lynne Pillay missed out by only 632 votes.&amp;nbsp; The swing was one of the smaller swings in the region but could not save her.&amp;nbsp; Lynne then decided that this would be her last term in Parliament.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Phil Twyford was a possible contender.&amp;nbsp; But he &lt;a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;amp;objectid=10613207"&gt;announced &lt;/a&gt;that he was going to run before Lynne had the dignity of being allowed to announce her retirement and this caused considerable ill will amongst the locals.&amp;nbsp; Carmel Sepuloni then came through and gained the nomination.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Since then she has run an energetic and well organised campaign.&amp;nbsp; Aided by campaign manager Enzo Giordani and assisted by a number of experienced and dedicated helpers a great deal of doorknocking has occurred.&amp;nbsp; Election day activity was extraordinary, thanks to a number of young Pacifica who turned up to help.&amp;nbsp; All the elements of the campaign have clicked together and Carmel's presence has been very public.&amp;nbsp; Most importantly she has been out and about and has been everywhere.&amp;nbsp; She has been a tireless candidate and nothing more could be expected of her.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Despite all this Carmel's prospects should have been poor.&amp;nbsp; Any time there is a 7 % swing against your party on the party vote the prospects of winning a seat a bleak.&amp;nbsp; To add to this she was up against Paula Bennett, a senior Cabinet Minister with a tough reputation and someone who is &lt;a href="http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/2010/11/stop-press-paula-bennett-is-visiting.html"&gt;extremely good at pushing herself into public attention&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;But the Herald today suggested that &lt;a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&amp;amp;objectid=10772014"&gt;the vote was extraordinarily close &lt;/a&gt;and less than 10 votes may separate the two.&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href="http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/2011/11/waitakere-seat-is-still-up-for-grabs.html"&gt;I thought that the vote could go very close&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;nbsp; The election night majority was small and the local organisation has organised a number of special votes.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;I am sure that if Carmel is ahead by a whisker then National will apply for a judicial recount.&amp;nbsp; I would doubt that they would go to the expense of a full electoral petition however as these are expensive and Bennett will be back on the list in any event.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;My fingers are crossed that Carmel will win. She is not in Parliament at this stage otherwise because of her list placement.&amp;nbsp; She is young and talented, Pacifica, intelligent, a woman.&amp;nbsp; She represents the future of the Labour Party.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;I talked to two people on the day before the election who were not enrolled but who despised Bennett.&amp;nbsp; I managed to get them enrolled and persuaded them to vote.&amp;nbsp; One of them was in her 40s and had never voted before.&amp;nbsp; If Carmel succeeds on the strength partially of these two votes I will be very pleased.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The lesson for all organisations is that you can never do enough during a campaign and every vote is vital.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;UPDATE: &amp;nbsp;The Electoral Commission &lt;a href="http://electionresults.govt.nz/electionresults_2011/electorate-57.html"&gt;reports&lt;/a&gt; that Carmel won by 11 votes. &amp;nbsp;Congratulations Carmel!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/942819925463058432-6274866385359902110?l=waitakerenews.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/feeds/6274866385359902110/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=942819925463058432&amp;postID=6274866385359902110' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/6274866385359902110'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/6274866385359902110'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/2011/12/waitakere-closest-of-margins.html' title='Waitakere - the closest of margins'/><author><name>mickysavage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16293708548352713924</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_80M5EXfefKc/R-IovH7v_KI/AAAAAAAAABM/qQyaZJmhNCY/S220/mickysavage.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-6wCuMlZccqU/TuGbYAzrczI/AAAAAAAAAR0/qUT1fCrgLZ4/s72-c/Carmel+Sepuloni.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942819925463058432.post-6799077944923158619</id><published>2011-12-04T23:24:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-12-06T01:07:50.420-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Cunliffe is shot by "friendly" fire</title><content type='html'>&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-D98Bdlx2BVs/Ttxq50KVVYI/AAAAAAAAARs/06lcysbFaac/s1600/DAVID+CUNLIFFE+%25281%2529.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="213" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-D98Bdlx2BVs/Ttxq50KVVYI/AAAAAAAAARs/06lcysbFaac/s320/DAVID+CUNLIFFE+%25281%2529.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The current contest for leadership of the Labour Party is becoming very interesting.  First there was three Davids, then one dropped off &lt;a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/politics/election-2011/6079302/Cunliffe-cleanout-needed-now"&gt;apparently because of fear of a public disclosure of aspects of his private life&lt;/a&gt;. The second David (Shearer) was initially the rank outsider but enjoyed a surge of recognition and &lt;a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2011/12/another_vrwnllwc_endorsement_for_shearer.html"&gt;support&lt;/a&gt; from various independent commentators such as David Farrar (National), Cameron Slater (National), Matthew Hooton (National), John Tamihere (National voting), Michelle Boag (National), Deborah Coddington (Act), Chris Trotter (still Alliance), Lew Stoddart (Green?).  Readers could forgive me for taking their support with a grain of salt.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One Labour commentator that Farrar mentioned is John Pagani, former speech writer for Phil Goff and clearly aligned with the old guard of the party. &amp;nbsp;I am pretty sure that Pagani's spontaneous enthusiasm for Shearer occurred after Parker pulled out.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Pagani today, in his capacity as an independent, unbiased commentator on matters to do with the Labour Party &lt;a href="http://johnpagani.posterous.com/renationalisation-the-backlash"&gt;made some extraordinary claims&lt;/a&gt;.  He said that David Cunliffe had advocated for the "forced renationalisation of privatised assets".  This took me by surprise.  I always thought that Cunliffe was part of the progressive left of the spectrum, the part that respected property rights, not the Hugo Chavez part that thought that capitalists should be bled until they are a pale shade of white.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So I went out to try and find evidence of this.  All that I could find was &lt;a href="http://tvnz.co.nz/q-and-a-news/david-shearer-cuniffe-transcript-4588650"&gt;this statement&lt;/a&gt; that Cunliffe made on Q&amp;amp;A last Sunday.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;GUYON Make it brief, cos we're running out of time.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;DAVID CUNLIFFE&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Yeah, SOE partial privatisation, no. I don't stand for a paler shade of blue, and I wanna look down the barrel and say this - if the government is going to sell off precious state assets, then &lt;b&gt;we would not rule out renationalising some of them&lt;/b&gt;. People need to be aware of that regulatory risk.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;GUYON You'd buy them back?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;DAVID CUNLIFFE&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;We'd look very hard at that&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;GUYON Is that a smart use of money?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;DAVID CUNLIFFE&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;I think the smart use of money is making these assets actually work for New Zealand much more. When we look at the need for alternative energies, reducing the gravitas for our power companies so that they can't move into new energy areas because they just don't have the ability to raise the capital for it is not in New Zealand's interest. I just don't see selling power companies to - largely what's going to happen Australian companies - as being in New Zealand's interest.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;So Cunliffe did not say that the assets would be forcibly renationalised.  What he said was that he would not rule out renationalising some of them and would look very hard at buying them back.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Spot the difference?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This morning I witnessed something I have never heard before.  I &lt;a href="http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/ninetonoon/audio/2504096/politics-with-matthew-hooton-and-john-pagani.asx"&gt;heard&lt;/a&gt; Matthew Hooton call Pagani because he (Pagani) was putting too much spin on things.  Miraculously my respect for Hooton went up at the same time as my respect for Pagani went down.  I never thought this was possible.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Pagani again claimed that Cunliffe had floated the idea of forced renationalisation of assets. Hooton very rightfully said that Cunliffe said he would only think about it.  Pagani nevertheless insisted that by floating the idea Cunliffe was committing to it.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He then drew links with Venezuela.  From thinking about buying the assets back he converted Cunliffe's policy into the forced renationalisation of the assets.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hooton said that he thought "that was all a bit extreme".  And he was right.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Not to be outdone Pagani then talked about Cunliffe putting aside $5 billion in the first year to buy them all back whereas Cunliffe said "some" assets "may" be purchased. &amp;nbsp;The timeframe was not mentioned. &amp;nbsp;Also Pagani clearly has not heard about borrowing. &amp;nbsp;The income stream from the power companies would justify borrowing the money to buy the shares back.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Shame on Pagani for scaremongering the way he has.  He should debate what Cunliffe actually said rather than criticising Cunliffe for planning something he clearly is not.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/942819925463058432-6799077944923158619?l=waitakerenews.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/feeds/6799077944923158619/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=942819925463058432&amp;postID=6799077944923158619' title='6 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/6799077944923158619'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/6799077944923158619'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/2011/12/cunliffe-is-shot-by-friendly-fire.html' title='Cunliffe is shot by &quot;friendly&quot; fire'/><author><name>mickysavage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16293708548352713924</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_80M5EXfefKc/R-IovH7v_KI/AAAAAAAAABM/qQyaZJmhNCY/S220/mickysavage.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-D98Bdlx2BVs/Ttxq50KVVYI/AAAAAAAAARs/06lcysbFaac/s72-c/DAVID+CUNLIFFE+%25281%2529.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>6</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942819925463058432.post-1247351617366202839</id><published>2011-12-01T09:16:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-12-01T09:16:42.306-08:00</updated><title type='text'>David Parker withdraws</title><content type='html'>&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-iLiUy9HpwXA/TtdLKpNx5dI/AAAAAAAAARc/HgezK3j1834/s1600/Labour+financial+package+launch+2.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="213" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-iLiUy9HpwXA/TtdLKpNx5dI/AAAAAAAAARc/HgezK3j1834/s320/Labour+financial+package+launch+2.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;So one of the Davids has gone.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;We now have two left after &lt;a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/6070939/Parker-pulls-out-of-leadership-race"&gt;yesterday's announcement&lt;/a&gt; by David Parker that he will not contest the leadership. &amp;nbsp;David Shearer and David Cunliffe are left to battle it out for the top spot.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;David Shearer has some momentum. &amp;nbsp;He won the battle of the texts after the debate last night and has many independent commentators supporting him. &amp;nbsp;People like &lt;a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2011/12/the_battle_of_the_daves.html"&gt;David Farrar&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2011/12/shearer-cleans-up-on-close-up/"&gt;Cameron Slater&lt;/a&gt;. &amp;nbsp;Despite their obvious links to the National Party and a history of trying to undermine the Labour Party I am sure that their comments are motivated by the best of intentions and they want the next Labour Leader to be able to win the next election.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;A number of independent commentators on the Standard have also spoken in favour of Shearer's candidacy. &amp;nbsp;People like &lt;a href="http://thestandard.org.nz/parker-withdrawing/#comment-410471"&gt;Nick C&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://thestandard.org.nz/parker-withdrawing/#comment-410389"&gt;Mr Magoo&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://thestandard.org.nz/parker-withdrawing/#comment-410405"&gt;Sanctuary&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a href="http://thestandard.org.nz/parker-withdrawing/#comment-410472"&gt;Pete George&lt;/a&gt;. &amp;nbsp;Although they would rather die than vote Labour they wish to give Labour the benefit of their carefully considered and totally independent thoughts. &amp;nbsp;The flood of support for Shearer from the RWNJs makes me think that Shearer may not be the best choice for Labour.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;What is disturbing is the shape of the possible Shearer parliamentary party. &amp;nbsp;An early version of the Stuff article indicated that Shane Jones would be Finance Spokesperson. &amp;nbsp;Subsequently this was changed to David Parker. &amp;nbsp;There appears to be no room for David Cunliffe. &amp;nbsp;As a minimum I would have thought that if Shearer wanted to build an inclusive party he should offer Cunliffe the finance spokesperson back. &amp;nbsp;If he is not able to do this then it would appear that he is stretching for numbers.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;And Parker's sudden disappearance will no doubt raise eyebrows. &amp;nbsp;As will the sudden endorsement of Shearer by camp Parker. &amp;nbsp;Slater believes that Mallard has gone from &lt;a href="http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2011/12/parker-withdraws-backs-shearer/"&gt;spreading muck and rumours about Shearer&lt;/a&gt; to being his numbers person in a matter of days.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;There is to be a nationwide series of members only meetings organised by the party. &amp;nbsp;I suspect that a good performance at these meetings will be vital for whoever eventually succeeds.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/942819925463058432-1247351617366202839?l=waitakerenews.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/feeds/1247351617366202839/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=942819925463058432&amp;postID=1247351617366202839' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/1247351617366202839'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/1247351617366202839'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/2011/12/david-parker-withdraws.html' title='David Parker withdraws'/><author><name>mickysavage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16293708548352713924</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_80M5EXfefKc/R-IovH7v_KI/AAAAAAAAABM/qQyaZJmhNCY/S220/mickysavage.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-iLiUy9HpwXA/TtdLKpNx5dI/AAAAAAAAARc/HgezK3j1834/s72-c/Labour+financial+package+launch+2.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942819925463058432.post-1569978417865682148</id><published>2011-11-30T00:48:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-11-30T00:48:58.392-08:00</updated><title type='text'>The Labour leader selection and the power of money</title><content type='html'>&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-qO_DVRWYgh0/TtXmK6Z-54I/AAAAAAAAARU/HPpqrCVI04I/s1600/Labour+Cunliffe+Shearer+Avondale.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="213" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-qO_DVRWYgh0/TtXmK6Z-54I/AAAAAAAAARU/HPpqrCVI04I/s320/Labour+Cunliffe+Shearer+Avondale.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;TVOne ran an &lt;a href="http://tvnz.co.nz/close-up/wednesday-november-30-4583310"&gt;interesting feature on Close Up this evening&lt;/a&gt;. &amp;nbsp;They hosted the three candidates for the Labour Leadership, all with the first name David, for a low key sort of debate. &amp;nbsp;There was not a great deal of information put out, the candidates had very little time to respond and it was all a bit too blokesy. &amp;nbsp;But the text poll was fascinating.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Apparently &lt;a href="http://tvnz.co.nz/election-2011/shearer-wins-battle-three-davids-poll-4583409"&gt;7,500 texts were received&lt;/a&gt;, half in support of David Shearer, 31% in support of David Cunliffe and the balance in support of David Parker. &amp;nbsp;The number of texts seems really high. &amp;nbsp;I have not been able to find out how many texts were sent after the first Leaders debate but I would be surprised if it was more than this.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;And &lt;a href="http://www.ipredict.co.nz/"&gt;Ipredict&lt;/a&gt; has been going ballistic today. &amp;nbsp;At the time of writing Cunliffe's stock has sold 1,538 shares, Parker's stock 1,653 and Shearer's stock a stunning 3,582 shares. &amp;nbsp;Of more interest is the split on the stocks. &amp;nbsp;Cunliffe's stock and Parker's stock show usual 10 share blocks for sale or purchase. &amp;nbsp;Shearer's current stock sale listing has 194 at .25c and 300 at .2202c. &amp;nbsp;These are defensive listings and unless someone wants to spend $145 and $264 to cancel the effects of these two listings then they will stop Shearer's share price from going down. &amp;nbsp;They are unusual. Someone wants to keep Shearer's price up.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Don't get me wrong. &amp;nbsp;David Shearer is an utterly decent human being who has a significant role to play in the Labour Party. &amp;nbsp;It is just that he does not have the experience or gravitas at this stage to do the job of leader even though he can contribute significantly to a future Labour administration. &amp;nbsp;David Parker is also a talented MP who is great with policy. &amp;nbsp;But we need someone who has both of these capabilities and for me this is David Cunliffe.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The Labour caucus has the job of deciding on the future leader. &amp;nbsp;I can confidently predict that David Shearer will not get past the first round. &amp;nbsp;MPs are supporting either Cunliffe or Parker.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;What this shows to me is that there is an attempt by those with money, very probably outside the party, to influence the decision making process. &amp;nbsp;The right wing is well resourced and very subtle in the way that they attempt to influence public opinion.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/942819925463058432-1569978417865682148?l=waitakerenews.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/feeds/1569978417865682148/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=942819925463058432&amp;postID=1569978417865682148' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/1569978417865682148'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/1569978417865682148'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/2011/11/labour-leader-selection-and-power-of.html' title='The Labour leader selection and the power of money'/><author><name>mickysavage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16293708548352713924</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_80M5EXfefKc/R-IovH7v_KI/AAAAAAAAABM/qQyaZJmhNCY/S220/mickysavage.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-qO_DVRWYgh0/TtXmK6Z-54I/AAAAAAAAARU/HPpqrCVI04I/s72-c/Labour+Cunliffe+Shearer+Avondale.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942819925463058432.post-7245590696226118578</id><published>2011-11-28T10:50:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-11-28T10:50:03.512-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Who should be Labour’s next Leader?</title><content type='html'>&lt;!--[if gte mso 9]&gt;&lt;xml&gt; 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text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-IixwIIkpez4/TtPVFyFkuII/AAAAAAAAARM/DwLY_VMri_k/s1600/Labour+financial+package+launch+5.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="213" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-IixwIIkpez4/TtPVFyFkuII/AAAAAAAAARM/DwLY_VMri_k/s320/Labour+financial+package+launch+5.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;It appears that Phil Goff may stand down as Labour Party leader.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;This is not surprising given the weekend’s election result.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;It is a shame really.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Phil ran an energetic passionate campaign that struck a real chord with activists.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;He was not bested in the debates with Key and IMHO won three of them.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;And National’s support plunged by as much as 7 points during the campaign.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;In fact the National-Act vote ended up essentially at the same position it did three years ago.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Given the last three years of the Key love in this country has endured this is actually a significant result and Labour can take heart that this part of their campaign bore fruit.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Goff has given the job his all.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;He has worked tirelessly for the past three years.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;The first term was always going to be difficult however and history will suggest that he is a failure although in my opinion a much more charitable ranking is warranted.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;But given the scale of the defeat a new leader is appropriate.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Politics is a cruel master and amongst other things does not tolerate failure.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The focus will now be on the successor.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;There are two main candidates, David Cunliffe and David Parker.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;A third mooted candidate, David Shearer, is extremely unlikely to even stand, despite media speculation to the contrary.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The Dominion this morning &lt;a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/6051540/Parker-heads-queue-for-Labour-leadership"&gt;reported rather optimistically&lt;/a&gt; that the Parker camp believe they have the numbers.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;They should do a recount.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Andrew Little has been described as being a leadership prospect.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;His result in New Plymouth, where he lost heavily, should count against this and he should spend some time adapting to his new job as a list MP rather than seeking the leadership.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;David Shearer has also been mentioned as a possible leader.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;He is a decent talented person who will contribute significantly to the party in the future but he is not leadership material at this stage.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The rumours about Shearer and Little were originally started by David Farrar and have been continuously mentioned by Cameron Slater.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;The media should discount anything Farrar or Slater says about the Labour Party.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;They are motivated by the most malign desire to hurt the progressive movement.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;David Cunliffe has been the subject of an &lt;a href="http://www.3news.co.nz/Cunliffe-Parker-Robertson-look-to-replace-Goff/tabid/370/articleID/234415/Default.aspx"&gt;anonymous whispering campaign&lt;/a&gt; obviously from within the party’s ranks.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;It has been suggested that not only does Parker have greater support, but that many in Caucus were furious with Cunliffe’s lack of support for Goff during the campaign, and in particular it was mentioned that Cunliffe was somehow responsible for &lt;a href="http://www.3news.co.nz/Key-Goff-trade-blows-at-Christchurch-Press-election-debate/tabid/419/articleID/231573/Default.aspx"&gt;Goff’s gaffe in the second campaign debate with Key&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;These are serious allegations.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Regrettably they are not true and reflect the desire of someone to damage rather than address the party’s difficulties.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;That a member of the Labour Caucus is willing to leak these comments is unforgivable.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; Whoever it is t&lt;/span&gt;hey are damaging the Party for personal benefit.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;The only other party that has engaged in this sort of behavior recently is ACT and I am sure Labour does not want to follow ACT’s fortunes.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The reality is that the coarse budget figures had been available to Goff for some time including in particular the income to be derived from the Capital Gains Tax which is the figure that Goff in the heat of the moment may not have remembered.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;The revised figures were going to be ready on the Wednesday or Thursday immediately after the second debate and the full release was only going to happen on the Friday.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; This was all pre programmed and agreed to by everyone. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Goff should have said “wait for Friday if you want the full figures”.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;That he did not is no fault of Cunliffe.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;I watched this part of the second debate a couple of times.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;My inclination is that Goff became slightly flustered, was talked over by Key and was not able to respond appropriately.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;To ascribe the event to a conspiracy by Cunliffe is the equivalent to blaming all mental health problems on alien abductions.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;It is rumoured that David Cunliffe has teamed up with Nanaia Mahuta as a leadershipticket.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;There is elegance in this partnership that is immediately obvious. Maori Pakeha, male female, urban rural representatives, it is a partnership that should appeal across the party.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;And the question that caucus members should have at the forefront of their mind is who can counter Key and lead Labour to victory.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Who can relate to ordinary people yet deal with complex policy areas?&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Who is the best debater and able to pin Key on the s&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;pin that he relentlessly uses?&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Who is the most passionate?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Parker, Shearer and Little are pleasant people and more than competent members of parliament but in my opinion the answer to this question is David Cunliffe.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!--EndFragment--&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/942819925463058432-7245590696226118578?l=waitakerenews.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/feeds/7245590696226118578/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=942819925463058432&amp;postID=7245590696226118578' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/7245590696226118578'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/7245590696226118578'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/2011/11/who-should-be-labours-next-leader.html' title='Who should be Labour’s next Leader?'/><author><name>mickysavage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16293708548352713924</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_80M5EXfefKc/R-IovH7v_KI/AAAAAAAAABM/qQyaZJmhNCY/S220/mickysavage.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-IixwIIkpez4/TtPVFyFkuII/AAAAAAAAARM/DwLY_VMri_k/s72-c/Labour+financial+package+launch+5.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942819925463058432.post-7759041853973075940</id><published>2011-11-27T00:50:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-11-27T00:50:54.428-08:00</updated><title type='text'>The Waitakere Seat is still up for grabs</title><content type='html'>&lt;!--[if gte mso 9]&gt;&lt;xml&gt; 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margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="213" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-bTsrFpCb6cM/TtH4xzhVFUI/AAAAAAAAARE/ADfqQgzqaAg/s320/Labour+Waitakere+campaign+launch+3.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;So the election is over.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Labour has had its worst result since the 1930s despite running a credible campaign.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Winston is back.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;My strong impression is that he can thank otherwise loyal lefties who voted for him to make sure NZ First was over the threshold and able to oppose the sale of assets.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;This is one of the things that the review of MMP will have to address.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;The threshold should be lower so that there is a greater incentive for voters to support the party they actually prefer.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Thankfully MMP will be retained.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Out west Carmel Sepuloni on election night figures has fallen just short of winning the Waitakere seat from Paula Bennett.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;She is 349 votes behind.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;This is a very credible result when the national swing of 7.1% against Labour is considered.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;With that sort of swing opposition parties normally do not normally pick up Government seats, particularly that of a high profile Minister.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;But there is still doubt about the final result.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;There are up to 3,413 special votes to count as well as overseas special votes and there is still the possibility that Carmel may win.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Last election Lynne Pillay won 262 more special votes than Paula Bennett excluding overseas special votes that Lynne lost by 25.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;The total number of special votes cast excluding overseas votes was 2,931.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Despite a lower turnout this time the number of special votes cast excluding overseas votes was 3,413, an increase of 482.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;If a similar proportion of these votes compared to last time is valid then this equates to 3,388 votes. If Carmel gains a similar proportion of these votes that Lynne achieved then she will shave 303 votes off Bennett’s majority.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Presuming the overseas votes are the same and presuming the special votes unfold as described then we are down to a knife edge 71 votes.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;This time the local Labour organisation put a sterling effort into collecting special votes, more than last time, and it may be that Carmel will obtain a greater proportion of the special votes.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;If so then Paula’s proud to be a westie career may be at an end.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!--EndFragment--&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/942819925463058432-7759041853973075940?l=waitakerenews.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/feeds/7759041853973075940/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=942819925463058432&amp;postID=7759041853973075940' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/7759041853973075940'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/7759041853973075940'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/2011/11/waitakere-seat-is-still-up-for-grabs.html' title='The Waitakere Seat is still up for grabs'/><author><name>mickysavage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16293708548352713924</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_80M5EXfefKc/R-IovH7v_KI/AAAAAAAAABM/qQyaZJmhNCY/S220/mickysavage.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-bTsrFpCb6cM/TtH4xzhVFUI/AAAAAAAAARE/ADfqQgzqaAg/s72-c/Labour+Waitakere+campaign+launch+3.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942819925463058432.post-5671457358732284081</id><published>2011-11-23T09:09:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-11-23T09:09:19.238-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Paula where were you?</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-QhTHffvoe_8/TszB5FbQ-QI/AAAAAAAAAQ8/nMNVrYp7sJs/s1600/Labour+TRRA+David+Cunliffe.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="213" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-QhTHffvoe_8/TszB5FbQ-QI/AAAAAAAAAQ8/nMNVrYp7sJs/s320/Labour+TRRA+David+Cunliffe.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;I originally chose a pseudonym for all the normal reasons.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;I could maintain my anonymity, and say what I thought without fear of repercussions.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;I was outed a little while ago.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;A right winger spotted a similarity between a letter I had published in the Sunday Star Times and a comment I made on Kiwiblog and my identity was blown.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;I then &lt;a href="http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-11102010/#comment-257649"&gt;formally acknowledged it on the Standard&lt;/a&gt; after I was elected to the Waitakere Ranges Local Board.&amp;nbsp; I thought it appropriate.&amp;nbsp; As a sort of public figure I ought to stand up and be accountable for things that I say.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;I have been the chair of the Titirangi Ratepayers Association for a while.&amp;nbsp; I am trying to find a replacement but no one has put their hand up so I continue to hold this position.&amp;nbsp; Part of the Association’s activities is to hold a meet the candidates meeting for local or national elections.&amp;nbsp; I have organised three of them in the past.&amp;nbsp; This was duly arranged and invites sent to all of the candidates for the New Lynn and Waitakere seats.&amp;nbsp; Both seats were chosen because the area is primarily in the New Lynn seat but a small slither rests in the Waitakere seat.&amp;nbsp; Also the extended invite allowed us to invite members of other residents and ratepayers associations and also to increase the prospects of having representatives of each party present.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;I have always acknowledged that I have strongly held political views.&amp;nbsp; Because of this I have arranged independent chairs to chair the debate itself.&amp;nbsp; I also was exceptionally careful to make sure that my introductory and ending comments were scrupulously impartial.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;This year we arranged another meeting.&amp;nbsp; The invites went out.&amp;nbsp; Most candidates accepted.&amp;nbsp; Tim Groser apologised because of a prior commitment in Christchurch.&amp;nbsp; Barbara Steinijans, the ACT candidate also apologised.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Paula Bennett also sent in an apology of sorts.&amp;nbsp; She wrote:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;I must admit your invitation did make me smile. I well remember 6 years ago as a very new candidate unwittingly going to this meeting that was a complete set up by the Labour Party and how appallingly it was run and how rude everyone was, fool me once and shame on me, fool me twice ...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Well it ain't going to happen. I will not be attending.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Since the boundary changes around 4 years ago, none of the Waitakere electorate is in the Titirangi catchment - hence why I wasn't invited 3 years ago.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Anything involving you would be blatantly party political as you are the West Auckland Labour Party Chairman and constantly negatively blog about me under the pseudonym (sic) Mickeysavage, I could bring as many of my supporters to match the Labour stacking that will go on and everyone could have a mud slinging match, but what a waste of everyones (sic) time. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Enjoy your meeting.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Paula”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;I was somewhat flummoxed by this.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;You see I did not chair the debate that time.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;I introduced the candidates and then handed over to a local Headmaster to chair the meeting.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;And I clearly recall her getting upset at David Cunliffe giving her a little bit of a ribbing.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;It was nothing really, especially compared to what happens in Parliament.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;I can recall thinking at the time that if she found this upsetting Parliament was going to be a shock.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;I felt obliged to respond.&amp;nbsp; I said:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Dear Paula&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Six years ago I arranged for a local Headmaster of impeccable standing to chair the debate because I acknowledged that I have strong political views and I considered that an independent chair was appropriate.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;There were at least two members of the National Party on the TRRA executive at the time and I was careful to make sure that the meeting was conducted properly.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;I received no complaints and thought the meeting went well.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Last election we decided to have candidates from the Tamaki Makaurau seat, this time we thought that we should have Waitakere candidates again.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;And you are wrong, part of the Titirangi area is in the Waitakere seat.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;You should get out a map some time and check the boundaries.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;This time Deputy Mayor Penny Hulse will chair the debate.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Am I missing something?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;As for blogging well using taxpayers money to advertise constituency clinics deserves criticism and your particular style of politics is appalling.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Why someone who gained a degree using public funds should destroy the opportunity for others to do the same is beyond me.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;And your disrespect for the rights of privacy of beneficiaries while supporting a Prime Minister that tramples over the independence of the media in trying to protect rights of privacy that were surrendered as soon as he called a press conference is distressing in the extreme.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;May this election return a Government that will work in the best interests of ordinary Kiwis.&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;By the way I am not the West Auckland Labour Party chair.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;There is no such position.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0cm; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-pagination: none; text-autospace: none;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;I sent this email to Paula privately.&amp;nbsp; Next morning when I realised that she had copied the Herald and the Western Leader into her original email I sent out a slightly more subdued email.&amp;nbsp; The intention was that I would defend my position publicly rather than attack her.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0cm; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-pagination: none; text-autospace: none;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0cm; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-pagination: none; text-autospace: none;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2011/11/nice_try_greg.html"&gt;Kiwiblog got hold of it&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;nbsp; I was actually happy that Farrar printed the private email because I meant every word of my criticism of Paula.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0cm; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-pagination: none; text-autospace: none;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0cm; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-pagination: none; text-autospace: none;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Paula and Groser did not turn up to the meeting.&amp;nbsp; It is a shame really. &amp;nbsp;All the other candidates turned up and performed with passion.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0cm; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-pagination: none; text-autospace: none;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0cm; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-pagination: none; text-autospace: none;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;David Cunliffe has not been able to debate with Groser once this campaign and given their respective standing this is astounding.&amp;nbsp; David expressed his frustration very clearly last night.&amp;nbsp; There were two empty seats where Paula and Groser should have been.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0cm; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-pagination: none; text-autospace: none;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0cm; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-pagination: none; text-autospace: none;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Not turning up seems to be a tactic by the tories.&amp;nbsp; For instance Simon Bridges has &lt;a href="http://blog.labour.org.nz/2011/11/20/when-simon-met-deb/"&gt;refused to debate with the other candidates&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;in Tauranga.&amp;nbsp; Out west David has been unable to debate with Groser.&amp;nbsp; Are they that scared?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/942819925463058432-5671457358732284081?l=waitakerenews.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/feeds/5671457358732284081/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=942819925463058432&amp;postID=5671457358732284081' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/5671457358732284081'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/5671457358732284081'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/2011/11/paula-where-were-you.html' title='Paula where were you?'/><author><name>mickysavage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16293708548352713924</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_80M5EXfefKc/R-IovH7v_KI/AAAAAAAAABM/qQyaZJmhNCY/S220/mickysavage.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-QhTHffvoe_8/TszB5FbQ-QI/AAAAAAAAAQ8/nMNVrYp7sJs/s72-c/Labour+TRRA+David+Cunliffe.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942819925463058432.post-8721751022297188227</id><published>2011-11-21T11:04:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-11-21T11:07:47.838-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Media bias - Who thought that Paul Henry was independent?</title><content type='html'>&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-0wAnyV8y_sE/Tsqfwa7x39I/AAAAAAAAAQ0/613Yz6qitqA/s1600/Key+Goff.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-0wAnyV8y_sE/Tsqfwa7x39I/AAAAAAAAAQ0/613Yz6qitqA/s1600/Key+Goff.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;I &lt;a href="http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/2011/11/media-bias-fairfax-style.html"&gt;posted recently&lt;/a&gt; on Fairfax's undermining of Labour's Auckland's advertising with its Suburban Newspapers. &amp;nbsp;The party spent a considerable amount of money on front page advertising. &amp;nbsp;The effect was sabotaged by advertorials favourably featuring Key placed immediately above. &amp;nbsp; The identical placement occurred in at least four of the suburban papers, the Papakura Courier, the East and Bays Courier, the North Shore Times and the Western Leader.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;I understand that it was a decision made higher up the Fairfax management chain and that some of the editors were very upset at this order from on high. &amp;nbsp;The whole incident reflects poorly on Fairfax and I am sure a complaint to the Press Council will be made.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Another incident of media bias occurred last night on TV3. &amp;nbsp;Readers will be aware that TV3 is owned by Mediaworks, a company that has received the &lt;a href="http://thestandard.org.nz/mediaworks-hearts-key/"&gt;benevolence of a $43 million interest free loan&lt;/a&gt; from this Government.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The debate was fascinating. &amp;nbsp;Phil Goff tried a slightly different approach and it worked very well. &amp;nbsp;He was respectful of Key's time and was silent during it. &amp;nbsp;By contrast when he spoke Key interrupted regularly. &amp;nbsp;Goff looked far more like a Prime Minister than Key.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Phil also nailed the important themes of the Labour campaign. &amp;nbsp;He spoke of ordinary people, the need for jobs and the need for a decent wage. &amp;nbsp;He talked about our electricity assets which had been built by Kiwis over many decades and about the implications of selling them overseas.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Key by contrast looked tired and lacked the flair he has shown previously.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The worm made its return and clearly favored Goff. &amp;nbsp;The debate audience controlled worm suggested that Goff won the debate decisively.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;This has caused an apoplectic response from right wing attack bloggers&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2011/11/labour-stacks-worm-panel/"&gt;Slater&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2011/11/so_much_for_a_panel_of_undecided_voters.html#comments"&gt;Farrar&lt;/a&gt; who immediately set out on a witch hunt to name and shame people they say are Labour supporters. &amp;nbsp;They obviously think that progressives' opinions should not be taken into account.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;If they are looking for bias they should look no further than the choice of panelists who discussed the aftermath of the debate. &amp;nbsp;Therese Arsenau is a logical choice, Duncan Garner has shown the ability to get stuck into both sides without fear, but choosing Paul Henry as the third panelist is frankly a disgraceful decision. &amp;nbsp;He is as partisan as you can get, a former failed National Party candidate and someone whose rascist comments have attracted considerable attention in the past. &amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://brianedwardsmedia.co.nz/2011/11/tv3-provides-a-great-debate-goff-wins-pity-about-the-panel/"&gt;Brian Edwards is correct&lt;/a&gt; in pointing out the inherent bias in having a panel with two independents and one right wing hack.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;To his credit John Campbell early on questioned Henry's judgment and independence by asking after Henry had actually thought that or if he was reflecting his political beliefs. &amp;nbsp;Campbell subsequently tweeted this:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px; line-height: 16px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;CampbellLiveNZ&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px; line-height: 16px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;A clarification: The debate was a 3 News leaders debate. It was hosted by @JohnJCampbell but Campbell Live had no input into the panelists.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;He conducted a really good debate and is obviously upset at the attempt to fix the result.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Farrar and Slater have done their job though. &amp;nbsp;The lead story on TV3's nightlife news was all about supposed infiltration of the audience by Labour members. &amp;nbsp;They should have looked at the management sanctioned infiltration of the "expert" panel by a rascist failed former National Party candidate. &amp;nbsp;That is where the real story is.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/942819925463058432-8721751022297188227?l=waitakerenews.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/feeds/8721751022297188227/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=942819925463058432&amp;postID=8721751022297188227' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/8721751022297188227'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/8721751022297188227'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/2011/11/media-bias.html' title='Media bias - Who thought that Paul Henry was independent?'/><author><name>mickysavage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16293708548352713924</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_80M5EXfefKc/R-IovH7v_KI/AAAAAAAAABM/qQyaZJmhNCY/S220/mickysavage.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-0wAnyV8y_sE/Tsqfwa7x39I/AAAAAAAAAQ0/613Yz6qitqA/s72-c/Key+Goff.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942819925463058432.post-4469518514020713558</id><published>2011-11-15T15:05:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-11-15T15:06:49.626-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Media Bias Fairfax style</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-u3QAi0MbjB4/TsKuxeaZomI/AAAAAAAAAQs/h7r9XTUrReo/s1600/Western+Leader+John+Key+Labour+advertisement.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="158" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-u3QAi0MbjB4/TsKuxeaZomI/AAAAAAAAAQs/h7r9XTUrReo/s320/Western+Leader+John+Key+Labour+advertisement.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;So we are well and truly into the middle of an intense Election campaign and it is less and less likely to be the cakewalk that had been predicted. &amp;nbsp;Passions are rising and the only thing that can be expected is the unexpected. &amp;nbsp;A simple cup of tea has suddenly attained intense significance because of discussions which if published could destroy four years of careful Crosby Texor work creating the perception that John Key is a nice person. &amp;nbsp;Suggesting that &lt;a href="http://thestandard.org.nz/dying-off/"&gt;a party's support will decline with the death of old people&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://thestandard.org.nz/key-banks-chatted-about-rolling-brash/"&gt;planning a coup on the leader of your closest support party&lt;/a&gt; tends to have this sort of effect.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The media has a vital role to play in an election campaign. &amp;nbsp;The way that issues are reported is important in allowing people to form an opinion and decide who they are going to support. &amp;nbsp;More than any other time of the electoral cycle the media should be careful to ensure that perceptions of bias and preference are not created.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;So I had to scratch my head at the latest Western Leader. &amp;nbsp;At the bottom of the front page of the latest edition is an expensive paid advertisement for local Labour MPs. &amp;nbsp;Similar ads are being rolled out throughout the region.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;But immediately above is an article allegedly penned by John Key. &amp;nbsp;A low res snapshot appears above. &amp;nbsp;The article is &lt;a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/local-news/western-leader/5962831/Lifeguards-do-an-outstanding-job"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. &amp;nbsp;It professes to be editorial copy. &amp;nbsp;If not it breaches section 3A(2)(c) of the Electoral Act 1993 because it does not have a promoter statement.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The article is something that I would expect the media in the Soviet Union or in Communist North Korea. &amp;nbsp;It reads like a tribute to "Glorious Leader". &amp;nbsp;Key was directly associated with Surf Lifesaving New Zealand, one of the country's most loved organisations and after reading it you get the impression that singlehandedly he is ensuring SLNZ's survival.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The campaign involves the Mad Butcher and Suburban Newspapers Community Trust as well as Surf Lifesaving NZ and is to raise money for much needed equipment. &amp;nbsp;Why it is released 10 days out from and election and why they chose to have Key front it beggars belief. &amp;nbsp;Even if you get past that why it should be placed immediately above Labour's advertisement beggars belief.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The text is perfect PR speech and includes phrases like the following:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333; line-height: 18px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;"In my time as prime minister – and as Helensville MP – I've had the chance to visit surf clubs around the country and chat to lifeguards young and old. Their enthusiasm and community spirit is simply outstanding. They do a great job.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 18px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #333333; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 18px;"&gt;Lifeguards help make our beaches safer, educate Kiwis about water safety and enable thousands of people to take part in fun and exciting surf sports every year."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The North Shore Times and the East and Bays Courier have also placed this advertorial immediately above the Labour ads in their latest editions.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Either this is an astounding coincidence or a complete oversight or Fairfax is attempting to spike Labour's advertising. &amp;nbsp;If the latter it has well and truly overstepped the mark in interfering in New Zealand's democratic system. &amp;nbsp;National and Brand Key is getting free advertising while Labour has to pay. &amp;nbsp;Rupert Murdoch should be ashamed.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;No matter what Labour deserves a refund. &amp;nbsp;And an apology.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/942819925463058432-4469518514020713558?l=waitakerenews.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/feeds/4469518514020713558/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=942819925463058432&amp;postID=4469518514020713558' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/4469518514020713558'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/4469518514020713558'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/2011/11/media-bias-fairfax-style.html' title='Media Bias Fairfax style'/><author><name>mickysavage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16293708548352713924</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_80M5EXfefKc/R-IovH7v_KI/AAAAAAAAABM/qQyaZJmhNCY/S220/mickysavage.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-u3QAi0MbjB4/TsKuxeaZomI/AAAAAAAAAQs/h7r9XTUrReo/s72-c/Western+Leader+John+Key+Labour+advertisement.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942819925463058432.post-7140858872343332975</id><published>2011-11-13T14:09:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-11-13T18:16:21.140-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Billboard Wars</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-V_fvSpUlqU8/TsA_SBRiRUI/AAAAAAAAAQc/TPPEkL651Xw/s1600/NationalBillboard1.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="213" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-V_fvSpUlqU8/TsA_SBRiRUI/AAAAAAAAAQc/TPPEkL651Xw/s320/NationalBillboard1.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Out in Waitakere things are heating up. &amp;nbsp;Bene basher bully Bennett’s  helpers have been&amp;nbsp;playing silly buggers with Labour billboards. As &lt;a href="http://blog.labour.org.nz/index.php/2011/11/14/national-getting-desperate-in-waitakere-breaking-the-rules/"&gt;reported by Carmel Sepuloni &lt;/a&gt;Paula’s  campaign manager Mark Brickell was seen &amp;nbsp;taking down some labour signs  from a fence. When asked what he thought he was doing he said &amp;nbsp;the people  who owned the Fence had said Labour was not given permission to put  the signs up and that they had wanted them down.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;There is a truth and reality problem with this explanation though.  &amp;nbsp;Carmel’s crew were told at one house&amp;nbsp;that Bennett had shown up wanting  to know why they had let Labour put a sign up and at at no point did  they ask her or her team to take it down. The sign is back up now.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;It is poor form for a Cabinet Minister to terrorise Waitakere  constituents for putting up a Labour billboard.&amp;nbsp; There again when you  think of the appalling way she treated Natasha Fuller this behavior is  not surprising.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Meanwhile a wag has designed a tweak to ensure that National's billboards accurately portray what they intend to do if reelected to Government.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;UPDATE:&amp;nbsp; Apparently Carmel has &lt;a href="http://blog.labour.org.nz/index.php/2011/11/14/me-with-waitakere-construction-workers-%e2%80%93-at-the-site-of-hoarding-sign-dispute/"&gt;spoken&lt;/a&gt; to the owner of a second site where Labour billboards were taken down by National and the owner denies giving any such instruction ... &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-S0snRExHGQk/TsA_ZVF0oOI/AAAAAAAAAQk/EuFB2d2mIq8/s1600/NationalBillboard2.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="213" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-S0snRExHGQk/TsA_ZVF0oOI/AAAAAAAAAQk/EuFB2d2mIq8/s320/NationalBillboard2.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/942819925463058432-7140858872343332975?l=waitakerenews.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/feeds/7140858872343332975/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=942819925463058432&amp;postID=7140858872343332975' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/7140858872343332975'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/7140858872343332975'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/2011/11/billboard-wars.html' title='Billboard Wars'/><author><name>mickysavage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16293708548352713924</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_80M5EXfefKc/R-IovH7v_KI/AAAAAAAAABM/qQyaZJmhNCY/S220/mickysavage.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-V_fvSpUlqU8/TsA_SBRiRUI/AAAAAAAAAQc/TPPEkL651Xw/s72-c/NationalBillboard1.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942819925463058432.post-5230711770677007462</id><published>2011-11-11T10:10:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-11-11T10:10:14.745-08:00</updated><title type='text'>What decade of deficits?</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-TKPpo_38t_Q/Tr1jdLL9vwI/AAAAAAAAAQU/3YrvrFuAD7A/s1600/Prefu.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="236" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-TKPpo_38t_Q/Tr1jdLL9vwI/AAAAAAAAAQU/3YrvrFuAD7A/s320/Prefu.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;If there is something that drives me around the bend more than anything else about modern political discourse it is the claim that Labour left the country with a decade of deficits.  This is a mantra repeated continuously.  It has the benefit for the right that they do not have to debate what happened.  All they have to do is shout "decade of deficits" and look smug and they think they have the argument won.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And it will not stop.  If (God forbid) John Key is still in power in 2017 two things can be predicted:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1.  I will be living overseas somewhere, probably Norway.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2.  Key will blame the then appalling state of the Country's economy on the fifth Labour Government.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So what is the source of the "decade of deficits" claim?  It is the &lt;a href="http://www.roymorgan.com/news/polls/2011/4719/"&gt;2008 PREFU&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What did this document actually state?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Ministerial Statement by Michael Cullen is a great read.  In typically elegant Michael Cullen prose he said:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Nine years of prudent fiscal management and sustained economic growth means that New Zealand is well placed to deal with these challenging times. Despite calls to spend the surpluses in recent years this government has adhered to our fiscal objectives and has reduced Gross Sovereign Issued Debt (GSID) so that we can meet the economic challenges ahead, while still delivering tax cuts and support for families.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;While the international position has worsened over recent months New Zealand has been in what is forecast to be a short and relatively shallow recession ...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;New Zealand is well placed to manage the external shock that our economy has endured. So while today’s report card highlights how critically important it was to utilise more favourable international and domestic economic times to save for a rainy day, it also tells us that the rainy day has arrived and that the Crown’s fiscal position has taken a big hit...&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The New Zealand economy has come a long way since 1999:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;the 1999 Pre-EFU forecast an unemployment rate of 7.0% in the March 2000 quarter compared with this Pre-EFU forecast of 4.4% unemployment in the March 2009 quarter&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;real gross domestic product (GDP) growth averaged 2.9% from 1990 to 1999 compared with 3.5% from 1999 to 2007&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;in 1999 net core Crown debt sat at 21.8% of GDP but this moved into a positive net financial asset position (including NZ Super Fund assets) since 2006, and&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;in 1999, GSID was above 35% of GDP but it has been brought down to below the government’s medium-term target.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;img src="file:///page8image1232" /&gt;And we have achieved all this while enhancing social equality and while delivering significant gains for New Zealanders including:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;the longest period of economic expansion since WWII&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;strong investment in New Zealand’s infrastructure after the 1990s decade of neglect&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;lower primary health care costs&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;restoring and lifting entitlements in superannuation&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;tax relief for businesses, savers and families with children, and&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;personal tax cuts for all workers.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;This Government is proud of what it has achieved during the past three terms. The New Zealand economy of 2008 is much stronger and more sustainable than that of 1999 and it is also fairer. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The document itself confirmed that the international outlook, the slowing of the domestic housing market and increasing pressure on households and businesses were significant developments.  This caused Treasury to expect weaker economic growth over the next few years, resulting in slower growth in tax revenue and higher government expenditure. Combined with increases in the costs of some existing policies, these factors lead to sustained operating balance deficits and higher debt-to-GDP ratios.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So Labour is being blamed for overseas events of which it had no chance of affecting and for local land speculation.  One can only imagine the fury and onslaught that would have occurred if Labour had tried to introduce a Capital Gains Tax like the one it is proposing now.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Some of the forecasts are fascinating.  Growth in the GDP for the 2010/11 year was expected to be 3.3%. Under Key it was actually 1.4%.  Unemployment in 2011 was predicted at 4.8%.  It was 6.6%.  The operating balance was predicted to be a deficit of $100 million.  It was a deficit of $18.4 billion, only half of which could be blamed on the Canterbury earthquakes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The biggest cost increase was anticipated to be the increase in benefit costs.  As can be seen above the increase was much greater than anticipated.  This is what happens when you elect a Government that does nothing about unemployment.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The bottom line is that the reduction of income and the increase in benefit costs were the largest contributors to the "decade of deficits".  Claims that it was caused by "out of control" increases in Government spending do not stack up.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/942819925463058432-5230711770677007462?l=waitakerenews.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/feeds/5230711770677007462/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=942819925463058432&amp;postID=5230711770677007462' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/5230711770677007462'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/5230711770677007462'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/2011/11/what-decade-of-deficits.html' title='What decade of deficits?'/><author><name>mickysavage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16293708548352713924</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_80M5EXfefKc/R-IovH7v_KI/AAAAAAAAABM/qQyaZJmhNCY/S220/mickysavage.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-TKPpo_38t_Q/Tr1jdLL9vwI/AAAAAAAAAQU/3YrvrFuAD7A/s72-c/Prefu.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942819925463058432.post-5579580841925297535</id><published>2011-11-10T00:44:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-11-10T00:44:52.504-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Rubbery John</title><content type='html'>&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px; line-height: 16px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; margin-bottom: 1.071em; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; font-size: 14px; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; font-size: 14px; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-vsapsfB7Znk/TruBZlFqd5I/AAAAAAAAAQM/zpdA4BljAVU/s1600/John+Key.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="213" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-vsapsfB7Znk/TruBZlFqd5I/AAAAAAAAAQM/zpdA4BljAVU/s320/John+Key.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-size: 14px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;I went to the Whenuapai meet the candidates meeting recently.  Key was there along with Labour’s Jeremy Greenbrook-Held, the Green's Jeanette Elley, some guy from ALCP who made lot of sense at times, an ACT candidate who is not going to vote for himself and an unfortunate Conservative Party candidate who promised to actually do what he promises unless a binding referendum says otherwise.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The format of the meeting was that the candidates were asked to answer four questions, three prepared and a fourth which was not told to them until the night.  And there was a fifth question sprung on them as a surprise.  No questions from the floor were allowed.  I suspect this was a Key requirement for his attending.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The seat is a graveyard for anyone but Key.  He won last time with a majority of 20,547, the highest in the country.  If he loses this time then questions can rightfully be asked.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But there are party votes at stake.  A vote in Helensville is worth the same as a vote in Auckland Central.  Labour missed out last time on getting a further MP by 39 party votes nationwide so it is clear that every vote is precious.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; margin-bottom: 1.071em; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Jeremy Greenbrook-Held performed really well.  He started off a bit nervously and read from his notes when responding to the first question.  But after this he hammered the Labour line about the stupidity of selling our assets.  His response to the question about why he would be the best local MP was extraordinarily good.  He emphasised how much he was a part of Helensville and how his roots were so solidly based in the area.  He mentioned the MP for Parnell and said how proud he would be to be the representative for Helensville.  He acknowledged how he was not going to win but said that Key was not going to get a free ride.  Democracies need more people like Jeremy.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; margin-bottom: 1.071em; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Jeanette Elley was also impressive.  She also knew her stuff and spoke from the heart.  The Labour people in the crowd also acknowledged her contribution.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;ACT's Nick Kearney summed up what is wrong with the party.  He acknowledged that he will not vote for himself but will vote for Key.  And he reemphasised that ACT will not be an independent functioning political party based on fulfilling its pledges to the electorate but instead would act as a lap dog for the National Party. &amp;nbsp;MMP needs less poodle parties.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Key was superficially impressive.  He is like a little kid with a stick trying to upset a hive of bees.  He obviously relishes any sort of argument.  He is a master at spin.  He will take any area of concern, for instance unemployment, and trot out a simplistic statistic that at best is not relevant and at worst is misleading.  He claimed that his government had created 60,000 jobs in the past 12 months.  All that I can see is that the unemployment rate has doubled and National's promise of 170,000 new jobs over 3 years looks forlorn.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But this is the essence of brand Key.  You just have to have a statistic that you can quote and look confident and smile and wave and you have won the battle.  Your cocky self confidence will carry the day.  Who cares what the reality is?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The trouble is I kept thinking about what Key said and I have to conclude that he kept saying fibs.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Fiscal responsibility was one of his main themes.  Without being embarrassed he kept saying National was responsible and Labour was irresponsible with the finances.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He promised $400 million for the Canterbury irrigation fund.  Yesterday National also promised the delay in some sectors coming into the ETS at a cost I understand of $500 million.  This is the thick end of a billion dollars worth of spending and it all has to be funded by borrowing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So where is the money coming from John?  And when is the MSM going to call him for what he is?  Rubbery John has a certain ring to it ...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="reply" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; display: inline-block; font-family: 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; font-size: 14px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/942819925463058432-5579580841925297535?l=waitakerenews.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/feeds/5579580841925297535/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=942819925463058432&amp;postID=5579580841925297535' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/5579580841925297535'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/5579580841925297535'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/2011/11/rubbery-john.html' title='Rubbery John'/><author><name>mickysavage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16293708548352713924</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_80M5EXfefKc/R-IovH7v_KI/AAAAAAAAABM/qQyaZJmhNCY/S220/mickysavage.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-vsapsfB7Znk/TruBZlFqd5I/AAAAAAAAAQM/zpdA4BljAVU/s72-c/John+Key.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942819925463058432.post-5803661591119309101</id><published>2011-11-07T10:00:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-11-07T10:00:12.254-08:00</updated><title type='text'>A week is a long time in politics</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: white; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; color: black; font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10px; margin-bottom: 8px; margin-left: 8px; margin-right: 8px; margin-top: 8px;"&gt;&lt;div style="font-size: 1.4em !important;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-FAmxgLjyu-Q/TrgZzmXTLMI/AAAAAAAAAQA/2jEdstKw5oM/s1600/Labour+Avondale+market+David+Cunliffe2.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="213" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-FAmxgLjyu-Q/TrgZzmXTLMI/AAAAAAAAAQA/2jEdstKw5oM/s320/Labour+Avondale+market+David+Cunliffe2.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-size: 1.4em !important;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-size: 1.4em !important;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-size: 1.4em !important;"&gt;So we are well and truly into the election campaign and it is impressive the subtle but direct way the right wing are campaigning. The left are relying on people power, billboards, pamphlets, doorknocking and face to face discussions to persuade our fellow Kiwis that there has to be a better way. The right wing appear at one level to be passive, you do not see them, they use hired help to get their billboards up and rely on Key’s charisma and the MSM to get their message across.&amp;nbsp; The power of money is evident. &amp;nbsp;All over Auckland giant expensive National billboards are going up and Labour activists can only watch as their efforts are dwarfed in size.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It has not been the best of weeks for Labour. Phil Goff started strongly but in a public debate his caution and cries of “show us the money” and the inability to get a word in sideways has cost him dearly. I watched this and had two thoughts, Key should stop acting like a performing seal and Goff should be given the chance to respond. Neither happened.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And now we get the MSM onslaught. The hollowing out of the MSM means that they are more and more reliant on the blogs to tell them what is happening. The right have this well organised. They have their attack dog Cameron Slater who has the illusion that Labour is a “nasty party” and will attack without conscience or understanding. They have David Farrar who has built up this exquisitely sophisticated front as an independent commentator but who appears to me to be essentially a mouthpiece for the National Party. And they have Matthew Hooton, described in the Hollow Men book as an “idiot”.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hooton has been especially interesting lately. He&amp;nbsp;&lt;a data-mce-href="http://www.electionresults.co.nz/opinion/parties/apparent-labour-attempt-manipulate-market-fails" href="http://www.electionresults.co.nz/opinion/parties/apparent-labour-attempt-manipulate-market-fails"&gt;alleged without evidence&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;that Labour has engaged in attempted manipulation of Ipredict but then refused to comment on a very clear example of right wing manipulation. Yesterday on Radio New Zealand &lt;a href="http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/ninetonoon/audio/2501993/politics-with-matthew-hooton-and-john-pagani.asx"&gt;he hinted&lt;/a&gt; that David Cunliffe had tried to sabotage Phil Goff last week by not providing him with a briefing. Nothing could be further from the truth. The draft costings have been in existence for a while and Goff knew in general terms what the figures are. I thought Goff just struggled to get the information out because Key kept overtalking him. But Hooton’s comment was &lt;a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/blogs/the-whip/5921985/Is-Cunliffe-Labours-future"&gt;picked up by the Dominion’s Andrea Vance&lt;/a&gt;. And David’s Ipredict stock for becoming the future leader then suddenly plunged to as low as .20c before returning to its more normal level of .50c.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-size: 1.4em !important;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-size: 1.4em !important;"&gt;Obviously the right fear Cunliffe and so they should. &amp;nbsp;He is unusual for a Labour politician. &amp;nbsp;He has business experience yet is through his family and upbringing tribal labour. &amp;nbsp;He has a keen intellect and is able to express very simply complex ideas. &amp;nbsp;He has not been bested yet by his opponent in any debate. &amp;nbsp;I am confident that he would overshadow Key if he is the Labour leader and stands out amongst the group who could be considered as potential future leaders.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-size: 1.4em !important;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-size: 1.4em !important;"&gt;The technique employed by the right is really subtle, work in the background, plant an idea, influence the media, affect measures of popularity then voila the opinion polls back you up. Progressives need to work out how to respond to this.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/942819925463058432-5803661591119309101?l=waitakerenews.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/feeds/5803661591119309101/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=942819925463058432&amp;postID=5803661591119309101' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/5803661591119309101'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/5803661591119309101'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/2011/11/week-is-long-time-in-politics.html' title='A week is a long time in politics'/><author><name>mickysavage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16293708548352713924</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_80M5EXfefKc/R-IovH7v_KI/AAAAAAAAABM/qQyaZJmhNCY/S220/mickysavage.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-FAmxgLjyu-Q/TrgZzmXTLMI/AAAAAAAAAQA/2jEdstKw5oM/s72-c/Labour+Avondale+market+David+Cunliffe2.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942819925463058432.post-6673822151486287307</id><published>2011-11-04T12:15:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-11-04T12:15:58.744-07:00</updated><title type='text'>John Key, how about you show us the money?</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-SR-Zu2hAVrk/TrOrzDLFk5I/AAAAAAAAAP4/vQMGVw2GJ3o/s1600/National+building+a+better+future.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="189" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-SR-Zu2hAVrk/TrOrzDLFk5I/AAAAAAAAAP4/vQMGVw2GJ3o/s320/National+building+a+better+future.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The past week of the campaign has been fascinating.  Labour started off strongly.  The policy launches were well received.  Kiwis actually like being told what their prospective Government plans to do.  Labour's announcements have dominated policy debates and Phil Goff performed exceptionally well in the first Leader's debate.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Then the second debate happened.  The majority view appears to be that Goff was doing well but lost it when Key came out with the "show us the money" line.  Interestingly &lt;a href="http://www.3news.co.nz/Debate-MC-gives-it-to-Goff/tabid/419/articleID/231603/Default.aspx"&gt;the MC thought that Goff had won&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And the MSM dutifully fell behind and said that Goff lost the debate because Key said "show us the money" and Goff did not respond.  They bought into the meme that Labour is not a competent financial manager.  This is despite nine years of competent management which saw net debt paid off and the Government spend as a proportion of GDP decrease significantly.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Running the country is a really serious job.  I just wished that the media would treat it as such and research the issues rather than buy into the political spin.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yesterday &lt;a href="http://www.ownourfuture.co.nz/fiscal-strategy"&gt;Labour came out with its costings&lt;/a&gt;.  Yesterday was chosen for two reasons:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1. &amp;nbsp;It allowed the &lt;a href="http://treasury.govt.nz/releases/2011-10-25p"&gt;PREFU data&lt;/a&gt; to be integrated into the analysis. The party was insisting that the analysis be coherent and based on the latest data.&lt;br /&gt;2. &amp;nbsp;Because the costings referred to individual policy packages it was important that all of the policy announcements had been made beforehand.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The PREFU was published on October 25, 2011 some 10 days before Labour's opening of the books.  It was a herculean task to have the analysis ready on time.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Key probably knew this.  So by jumping up and down like a trained seal and saying "where is the money" he was bound to get a generalised response from Goff.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is regrettable that the MSM has bought into this.  They ought to realise that presentation of three years worth of financial data for the country cannot be presented in a soundbite.  But they have allowed Key to say there was a &lt;a href="http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-stories/11318317/labour-to-release-policy-costings/"&gt;$17 billion&lt;/a&gt;, then &lt;a href="http://tvnz.co.nz/election-2011/goff-responds-show-me-money-jibe-4499857"&gt;$14 billion&lt;/a&gt;, then an &lt;a href="http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/election-2011/90122/minor-parties-critical-of-labour-costings"&gt;$11 billion gap&lt;/a&gt; without questioning the veracity of his analysis. &amp;nbsp;Rob Salmond at Pundit has done a &lt;a href="http://pundit.co.nz/content/how-big-is-the-hole-in-key%E2%80%99s-%E2%80%9C17b-hole%E2%80%9D"&gt;good job deciphering National's figures&lt;/a&gt; and detailing some glaringly bad suppositions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And the media has been drowned with allegations of financial incompetence from both sides.  The language has been getting tetchy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For me the veracity of the claims is easy to resolve.  National has a major credibility problem.  It intends to sell $6 billion worth of Power Company shares but has not taken the dividend out of the country's accounts.  It gets the benefit of the sale but does not lose the dividend stream.  If Key can achieve this he is a financial genius.  But I suspect that the purchasers of our country's power company shares will insist that they benefit from the income earned.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There are &lt;a href="http://thestandard.org.nz/nz-deserves-better-than-budget-lies/"&gt;other patchy areas in their latest Budget&lt;/a&gt;, a billion dollars of savings with no idea where they are going to come from and an optimism in this figures that &lt;a href="http://thestandard.org.nz/a-shoddy-shoddy-budget/"&gt;caused the IRD to insert a disclaimer&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The size of the dividend stream has been an issue for a while.  Ever since the Budget the treatment of the power companies dividends has been an issue.  That it is still not properly accounted for in the country's accounts is appalling.  Let me put this simply.  When you sell shares you lose the income.  If your accounts still show the income then there is something really wrong.  If you are a small business owner and your accountant is that incompetent they do this you should get a new accountant and sue the old one if they cause you loss.  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href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/2011/11/john-key-how-about-you-show-us-money.html' title='John Key, how about you show us the money?'/><author><name>mickysavage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16293708548352713924</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_80M5EXfefKc/R-IovH7v_KI/AAAAAAAAABM/qQyaZJmhNCY/S220/mickysavage.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-SR-Zu2hAVrk/TrOrzDLFk5I/AAAAAAAAAP4/vQMGVw2GJ3o/s72-c/National+building+a+better+future.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942819925463058432.post-1172337512419129737</id><published>2011-11-02T14:48:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-11-02T19:46:12.217-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Waitakere - If you want to get rid of Paula you have to vote for Carmel</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-NpB5ULPYOHw/TrG3xtxCzcI/AAAAAAAAAPs/1wdXiqENY3I/s1600/Labour+Carmel+Sepuloni.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="213" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-NpB5ULPYOHw/TrG3xtxCzcI/AAAAAAAAAPs/1wdXiqENY3I/s320/Labour+Carmel+Sepuloni.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Act is not standing a candidate in the Waitakere seat. &amp;nbsp;This &lt;a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&amp;amp;objectid=10763541"&gt;appears to be a deal&lt;/a&gt; with National to improve Paula Bennett's chances.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Bennett's majority &lt;a href="http://electionresults.govt.nz/electionresults_2008/electorate-57.html"&gt;last election&lt;/a&gt; was a knife edge 632. &amp;nbsp;This is the narrowest majority in the region and Labour is determined to win the seat back. &amp;nbsp;Labour's candidate, Carmel Sepuloni has been an energetic and competent candidate and backed by an intense local party effort is poised to win the seat back.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;But the race is tight and minor candidate votes will be important. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Last time there were nine candidates. &amp;nbsp;Four of them were competing for voters in the same part of the political spectrum as Labour. &amp;nbsp;These included Sandra Ethell, the Alliance candidate (78 votes), Fia Misa Tupou, the New Zealand Pacific Party Candidate (448), Craig McNair the NZFirst Candidate (597) and Michael Kidd the Family First Candidate (358). &amp;nbsp;The Alliance has now folded as has the New Zealand Pacific Party and Michael Kidd has interestingly joined the local Labour Party. &amp;nbsp;None of these parties are standing candidates this time. &amp;nbsp;It is likely that most of these votes will go either to Labour or the Greens although Family First votes could splinter unpredictably.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Of the others not standing this time John Riddell, the ACT candidate gained 482 votes. &amp;nbsp;It is likely that many if not most of these votes will go Paula's way.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;This time there are three new party candidates standing. &amp;nbsp;Jeff Lye is standing for the Legalise Aotearoa Party. &amp;nbsp;Overall last time they achieved 0.41 of the party vote. &amp;nbsp;An equivalent result locally would mean 129 votes, mostly obtained from the Green Party. &amp;nbsp;Danny Mountain is standing for the Conservative Party. &amp;nbsp;I suspect that the Conservatives could do well as they are well funded and may attract support that previously went to the ACT party. &amp;nbsp;Any votes he gets will probably come from the right although conservative Pacifica may think about supporting him.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The most important new candidate is Mana Party's Sue Bradford. &amp;nbsp;She has a strong standing with the left and it is likely she will win some votes that may otherwise go to Carmel Sepuloni. &amp;nbsp;But she will have a stronger drawing power amongst Green voters and the effect on Labour voters is not easy to anticipate. &amp;nbsp;The Green's Gary Stewart last time won 1,676 votes and it may be that these votes will be shared between the Mana and the Green candidates this time.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Obviously strategic voting by third party supporters is going to be vital.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;By not standing a candidate ACT have well and truly shown that it is a &lt;a href="http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/2011/04/don-brash-lest-we-forget.html"&gt;puppet of the National Party&lt;/a&gt;. &amp;nbsp;Clearly it has been taken over by forces associated with National. &amp;nbsp;Its only role it seems is to secure further support for National and to help Bennett get reelected.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;All good progressives can counter this by endorsing Carmel Sepuloni and by asking their voters to vote strategically. &amp;nbsp;Steve Tollestrup, the Green's affable and talented candidate, is understood to be supportive. &amp;nbsp;If he and Sue Bradford were able to publicly support Carmel this could be decisive.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Overall I do not think that the current candidate line up necessarily hurts Carmel's chances. &amp;nbsp;But it is important to emphasise that if people want to get rid of Paula they have to vote for Carmel.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' 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center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-hkpHF_vbQxE/Tq5jtKHj76I/AAAAAAAAAPk/fmaqPxqSqPg/s1600/Labour+Environmental+policy+launch+3.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="213" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-hkpHF_vbQxE/Tq5jtKHj76I/AAAAAAAAAPk/fmaqPxqSqPg/s320/Labour+Environmental+policy+launch+3.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;I &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/2011/10/is-it-phil-goffs-time.html"&gt;blogged a couple of weeks ago&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt; indicating that perhaps Labour has a chance in this election after all. &amp;nbsp;It still seems unlikely, although the polls are showing the margin is shrinking, it still has a long way to go before Labour has a chance.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Labour are in the position where they have to run a perfect campaign and hope that Key stumbles. &amp;nbsp;They are the rank outsiders and must rely on luck and grit to get through.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;In the past week they have done well. &amp;nbsp;Last Thursday they neatly avoided discussion on why they did not have a campaign launch by touching the third rail of politics and &lt;a href="http://thestandard.org.nz/labours-savings-retirement-policy/"&gt;announcing a gradual increase in the age of eligibility for national superannuation&lt;/a&gt;. &amp;nbsp;The subject has dominated policy discussions ever since and has shown that Goff and the Party are brave and will without fear address the issues. &amp;nbsp;On Friday they they launched the most stunning campaign film I have ever seen.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/MN5DZC4MimQ" width="560"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Then on Sunday they &lt;a href="http://www.ownourfuture.co.nz/transport"&gt;elegantly promised half the funding needed for the inner city loop &lt;/a&gt;by cancelling the holiday highway, funding the necessary safety enhancements for the existing highway from Puhoi to Wellsford, diverting funds into the loop and having change to spare.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The holiday highway is a weird idea. &amp;nbsp;It has a &lt;a href="http://www.aktnz.co.nz/2010/12/05/puhoi-cost-ratio-officially-0-8/"&gt;benefit cost ratio of 0.8,&lt;/a&gt; that is for every dollar spent 80c came back in benefits. &amp;nbsp;Motorways normally have a benefit cost ratio of two or more, so the holiday highway is an extravagant luxury, or to put it another way, a waste of money.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Yesterday started with &lt;a href="http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/morningreport/audio/2501336/extended-interview-with-phil-goff.asx"&gt;Key refusing to appear on National Radio with Phil Goff&lt;/a&gt;. &amp;nbsp;Goff had the privilege of time on radio by himself. &amp;nbsp;Given the political leaning of the audience I am not sure how many votes were gained but this is not a good look for Key.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;And &lt;a href="http://tvnz.co.nz/politics-news/goff-and-key-clash-in-fiery-opening-debate-4492905"&gt;onto the debate&lt;/a&gt;. &amp;nbsp;I must concede that Goff initially looked more nervous than Key who looked very relaxed and polished. &amp;nbsp;But Goff stuck to it. &amp;nbsp;Key was superficially plausible but on watching the film for a second time I get the strong impression that he was telling fibs on a number of occasions. &amp;nbsp;The impression was definitely that Goff was more direct and straightforward with his responses.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Key kept talking as if he was still in opposition. &amp;nbsp;He spoke of National's goals, for instance to return to surplus without acknowledging that this year he has run an $18 billion deficit. &amp;nbsp;He also accused Goff of reckless spending whereas I am pretty sure that Goff is not the Prime Minister at this time and has no control over the Government's spend.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Key trotted out the familiar slogans, "fiscally neutral tax cuts", "moving families off welfare", and "decade of deficits". &amp;nbsp;No new Crosby Textor type slogans were presented however and one wonders if they are still retained.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Goff was very good on the core labour issues such as the minimum wage, tax cuts for the wealthy and the stupidity of asset sales. &amp;nbsp;He kept returning to these themes. &amp;nbsp;He was particularly good on tax cuts for the wealthy and acknowledged the benefit that he and Key received from National's tax cuts. &amp;nbsp;He personalised the effects and acknowledged that he and Key had benefitted by far too much from the Government's decisions.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Environmental issues also showed the starkness of approaches. &amp;nbsp;Goff opposes deep sea drilling without very strong safeguards and&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;ruled out mining in National Parks&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;, Key clearly supports the expansion of mining in New Zealand. &amp;nbsp;Key thought clearly that farmers were already paying too much for Kyoto credits and wants a "massive mining centre".&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Afghanistan was raised. &amp;nbsp;Goff and Labour will bring our troops home. &amp;nbsp;Key kept saying that the SAS would be returned at the end of this current term but refused to commit to not returning them next March.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;When asked about telling the truth Key talked about a "dynamic environment" and how "circumstances change". &amp;nbsp;Goff did not muck around and accused Key of lying. &amp;nbsp;Goff also fronted up to criticisms of past changes and acknowledged that he was wrong to support asset sales three decades ago.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The questions from viewers were an interesting choice and favored Key. &amp;nbsp;The first suggested that the public service was inefficient. &amp;nbsp;I just wish that someone would question the efficiency of the world's merchant banks. &amp;nbsp;The second was from a business owner who clearly does not want business costs to increase. &amp;nbsp;The third was about a new flag. &amp;nbsp;The fourth suggested that mining was necessary because of the economic value especially in coal. &amp;nbsp;The fifth was justified and from the family representatives of the Pike River miners. &amp;nbsp;The last was the only leftie type question that asked about kiwis being sent to Afghanistan to kill the locals.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;If you did not know the detail Key was superficially plausible. &amp;nbsp;But after three years I get the feeling that more and more people are seeing through the rhetoric and are worrying about their future. &amp;nbsp;If they want to trust someone with their future then on tonight's policies Phil Goff is their man.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;National's main problem is that Key is the centre and cornerstone of the National campaign. &amp;nbsp;Everything depends on him. &amp;nbsp;An even debate is a loss for National because they are already losing the policy debate.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The last couple of minutes were set aside for comments supplied by text. &amp;nbsp;The last said&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote class="tr_bq"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;"Phil Goff has won most questions if not all. &amp;nbsp;Not a Labour voter but I am impressed. &amp;nbsp;Your commentators' views that Key doing better astounds me."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;I could not agree with him more.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' 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Goliath'/><author><name>mickysavage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16293708548352713924</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_80M5EXfefKc/R-IovH7v_KI/AAAAAAAAABM/qQyaZJmhNCY/S220/mickysavage.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-hkpHF_vbQxE/Tq5jtKHj76I/AAAAAAAAAPk/fmaqPxqSqPg/s72-c/Labour+Environmental+policy+launch+3.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942819925463058432.post-281815001440390310</id><published>2011-10-23T12:50:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-10-23T13:40:14.340-07:00</updated><title type='text'>The Battle for Epsom</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-RqMg_0Mol48/TqRpgWg8MHI/AAAAAAAAAPc/m8gDjPxdhlg/s1600/john+key+all+blacks.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-RqMg_0Mol48/TqRpgWg8MHI/AAAAAAAAAPc/m8gDjPxdhlg/s1600/john+key+all+blacks.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Congratulations to the All Blacks. Despite being overwhelming favorites and against a side that was written off by everyone they managed to just beat the gallant French. Instead of smug superiority there should be relief in the hearts and minds of Kiwis. I can think of no better metaphor for the 2011 election where a rank outsider rises to the challenge.  And the funny thing about MMP is that if you just lose and your natural coalition partner does way better than theirs, chances are you are in Government.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Just as in 2008 National is high in the polls, with some suggesting that its support is in the mid 50s. But in 2008 a 20 plus point margin in the polls evaporated to an 11% gap on the official results. And if Labour can get over the 34% mark then traditional MMP dynamics will kick in and the election will be all about the minor parties.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It does appear that National has taken a major hit over the Rena shipwreck. National will pray that there is not the gradual leaking of oil onto Tauranga's pristine beaches over the next 5 weeks. There could be no more compelling reminder of National's insistence on "cutting the back office" and what this means in reality.   I have heard comments that internal polling suggests National may already have taken a 6% hit in the polls primarily because of Rena. The steady drip of oil may match the steady evaporation of its poll support.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If this is the case and the polls are narrowing then National could have a problem. The focus will be on the minor parties and how they are faring.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Labour has much in common with the Greens. Despite a somewhat tense relationship their fundamental principles are broadly similar. Both believe in social justice, protection of the environment and active management of the state for the benefit of ordinary New Zealanders and both refuse to believe that leaving things to the invisible hand of the market will achieve these goals.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Greens are doing well. The &lt;a href="http://www.roymorgan.com/news/polls/2011/4705/"&gt;latest Roy Morgan&lt;/a&gt; poll using data taken up to October 9 had their support at 9.5% but I understand that recent National losses have been met by Green gains. They are on track for their best election performance.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And I cannot imagine them going into coalition with National, even though they have not explicitly ruled this out. Catherine Delahaunty for instance &lt;a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/5761516/Green-MP-disturbed-by-National-polls"&gt;said&lt;/a&gt; she would resign if the Greens went into coalition with national. She also said:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;I don't think it's going to happen so I don't think I'm going to have to ask myself that question. I don't see why the Greens would because we're not stupid."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If the Greens did go into coalition I suspect this would lead to their demise as a political entity into New Zealand.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So all eyes are on ACT. They are polling well below 5%. They have become a toxic party and the behavior of their MPs such as Rodney Hide (perk busted and misogynistic), David Garret (stole a dead baby's identity) amongst others have in my view fatally tarnished their brand.  National's own image must be taking a hit from their association with ACT.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The take over of ACT by National has firmly made them into a &lt;a href="http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/2011/05/don-brash-lest-we-forget-ii.html"&gt;puppet party&lt;/a&gt;.  They were taken over by National operatives and a former National Leader and Cabinet Minister occupy their two top positions.  If they do not get over the line or win Epsom then resources and right wing votes are going to be wasted.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I get the strong impression that National is backpedaling in its support for ACT in Epsom and Key is maneuvering himself into a position where he can consign ACT to political history. The publishing of poll results through Farrar's website and Key's statement that he will be voting for Goldsmith are indicators that National want to be able to move either way.  Farrar's &lt;a href="http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2011/10/guest_post_david_parker_on_whats_going_on_in_epsom.html#comments"&gt;helpful reproduction&lt;/a&gt; of David Parker's comments on the campaign was eye opening.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And the media is starting to respond.  The normally supportive TV3 has described the deal over Epsom as "&lt;a href="http://www.3news.co.nz/Key-and-ACTs-Epsom-deal-is-just-so-filthy---blog/tabid/1382/articleID/230334/Default.aspx"&gt;filthy&lt;/a&gt;".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think that National needs to be cautious.  Tthe Epsom voters are intelligent and will not accept National instructions no matter what.  ACT in Epsom could be too big a dead rat to take.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And Banks' performance has been poor.  He is a political metronome, he latches onto one phrase and will regurgitate it continuously.  He is a very poor debater, and David Parker is an excellent choice for Labour in that he will be able to highlight these weaknesses.  The recent debate on &lt;a href="http://tvnz.co.nz/q-and-a/s2011-e31-video-4463706"&gt;Q and A&lt;/a&gt; was a classic example of this.  Banks continuously regurgitated the line that Labour was the "tax borrow spend and hope".  His statement was bizarre in that Labour had paid off pretty well all of the Crown's debt during its reign while National had borrowed $38 billion in its short time in office.  He did not answer when Parker put to him that Auckland City's debt had trebled under his reign.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The ACT campaign has limped from disaster to disaster.  I get the feeling that one further disaster will be the end of ACT's aspirations.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/942819925463058432-281815001440390310?l=waitakerenews.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/feeds/281815001440390310/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=942819925463058432&amp;postID=281815001440390310' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/281815001440390310'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/281815001440390310'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/2011/10/battle-for-epsom.html' title='The Battle for Epsom'/><author><name>mickysavage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16293708548352713924</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_80M5EXfefKc/R-IovH7v_KI/AAAAAAAAABM/qQyaZJmhNCY/S220/mickysavage.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-RqMg_0Mol48/TqRpgWg8MHI/AAAAAAAAAPc/m8gDjPxdhlg/s72-c/john+key+all+blacks.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942819925463058432.post-6770113776999960478</id><published>2011-10-14T01:34:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-10-14T11:53:07.336-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Is it Phil Goff's time?</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-wtP2b9E16l8/Tpfv8qzJ4PI/AAAAAAAAAPU/QEGVAtqC4Ts/s1600/Phil+Goff.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="213" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-wtP2b9E16l8/Tpfv8qzJ4PI/AAAAAAAAAPU/QEGVAtqC4Ts/s320/Phil+Goff.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Two weeks ago I thought that Goff and Labour did not have a chance in this election. &amp;nbsp;National's lead in the polls seemed too big, the country still seemed to be in love with John Key and Goff just was not getting the media cut through necessary to change hearts and minds.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;I thought that Labour would limp through to the election, through a herculean effort get its core vote out, score in the low 30s and with the Greens being at about 8 % be well short of National. &amp;nbsp;Goff would then be deposed, would probably retire and be but a footnote in New Zealand's history. &amp;nbsp;The main point of interest was if National (shudder) managed to get sufficient votes to rule in its own right, or if it would need the support of the minor parties to form a Government.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Then something happened. &amp;nbsp;The wheels started to fall off National's well honed machine.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;There was a &lt;a href="http://thestandard.org.nz/a-pm-but-not-a-leader-2/"&gt;double credit rating downgrade&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;. &amp;nbsp;This was doubly damaging for National given Key's measuring of the success of the 2009 budget by the fact that an alleged possible downgrade was apparently avoided. &amp;nbsp;The double whammy suggests that the credit rating agencies do not think highly of Key's performance.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Then Key was caught out telling a lie saying that S&amp;amp;P said a downgrade would be more likely under Labour. &amp;nbsp;His defence was weak in the extreme and consisted of providing an anonymous email that did not back up what he alleged. &amp;nbsp;The media &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://thestandard.org.nz/sp-outs-key-on-two-more-downgrade-lies/"&gt;did not believe him&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;National was forced to retreat on the proposed emergency Video Surveillance legislation when its proposal that the legislation have retrospective effect was widely panned by just about everyone. &amp;nbsp;Interestingly in Parliament Hone Harawira talked about a senior politician being caught out having an affair with a woman involved in the consumption of pseudoephedrine and one waits with interest to see who it is. &amp;nbsp;If and when the news comes out a major scandal will no doubt ensue.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Key in Parliament bizarrely blamed the Labour Party after a person with obvious mental health problems tried to throw himself onto the floor of Parliament from the public gallery. &amp;nbsp;Key then engaged in "&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haka_of_the_All_Blacks#.22Kapa_o_Pango.22_2005"&gt;Kapa o Pango&lt;/a&gt;" and on Parliament's cameras clearly made a throat cutting gesture to the Labour side. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Goff responded superbly&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 16px;"&gt;. &amp;nbsp; His speech given immediately after the incident was one of the best I have seen. &amp;nbsp;He showed passion, grit and determination and the ability to react and think on his&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 16px;"&gt;feet even after being confronted by a potential tragedy.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 16px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/SyRSaJWxtL8" width="560"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 16px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 16px;"&gt;And then the &lt;a href="http://thestandard.org.nz/keys-katrina/"&gt;Rena shipwreck&lt;/a&gt; happened. &amp;nbsp;The Government was shown to be hamfisted and slow in its response. &amp;nbsp;Four days of good weather was wasted so that an environmental tragedy is inevitable. &amp;nbsp;There is this feeling of unease that New Zealand's "back office" is not up to scratch because of this Government's efforts.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 16px;"&gt;Over the past two years Goff has been hammered by the forces of the right, by the media and a meme has been constructed that he is not leadership material. &amp;nbsp;This attack has worked well, the population at large are indifferent to him and even amongst the ranks of the left he is treated with&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 16px;"&gt;caution. &amp;nbsp;But it may be that his&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;time has come.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And so Labour and Goff are suddenly back in the game and Key's teflon coating looks chipped. If National does not get a majority then it will have to look to Act for support.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Act look very vulnerable. Brash and Banks have had a very public disagreement about decriminalising cannabis and none of the existing MPs are standing again. The leaks that have occurred ever since Heather Roy was deposed as deputy appear to be continuing. &amp;nbsp; And you can't help but think that they are one major scandal away from oblivion ...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So a resurgent Labour and a solid Green result could result in something that two weeks ago seemed almost impossible, a Phil Goff Prime Ministership. He may be one great campaign performance away from this.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/942819925463058432-6770113776999960478?l=waitakerenews.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/feeds/6770113776999960478/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=942819925463058432&amp;postID=6770113776999960478' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/6770113776999960478'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/6770113776999960478'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/2011/10/is-it-phil-goffs-time.html' title='Is it Phil Goff&apos;s time?'/><author><name>mickysavage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16293708548352713924</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_80M5EXfefKc/R-IovH7v_KI/AAAAAAAAABM/qQyaZJmhNCY/S220/mickysavage.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-wtP2b9E16l8/Tpfv8qzJ4PI/AAAAAAAAAPU/QEGVAtqC4Ts/s72-c/Phil+Goff.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942819925463058432.post-2363243702877696882</id><published>2011-10-03T16:06:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-10-03T16:06:36.409-07:00</updated><title type='text'>The Video Surveillance Bill is much improved, but ...</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-oqiCyaULm2c/Too-vCWhLGI/AAAAAAAAAPQ/EVsGpumTr9k/s1600/Constitution+Image.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-oqiCyaULm2c/Too-vCWhLGI/AAAAAAAAAPQ/EVsGpumTr9k/s1600/Constitution+Image.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Justice and Electoral Select Committee has &lt;a href="http://www.parliament.nz/NR/rdonlyres/CB11AAD5-9FE6-4549-8434-33502C285CAE/203259/DBSCH_SCR_5325_VideoCameraSurveillanceTemporaryMea.pdf"&gt;reported back&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;the Video Search and Surveillance (Temporary Measures) Bill and the bill has benefitted from the select committee process.  There are a number of significant improvements.  The retrospective effects of the bill with one important exception have been removed.  Powers of search have been reduced.  The Bill if enacted will only be in effect for 6 months.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But there is a dead rat lurking in the Bill.  The power to appeal a conviction because of video surveillance evidence being improperly admitted has been removed.  Previously an appeal could be lodged on the basis that the decision in &lt;i&gt;Hamed&lt;/i&gt; represents a change in the law.  Generally the chances of an appeal succeeding are poor, it has to be shown that there was a miscarriage of justice.  As shown in &lt;i&gt;Hamed&lt;/i&gt; the Court has a discretion to admit otherwise improperly acquired evidence, that the evidence would otherwise have been excluded, and that the totality of the evidence was not sufficient to maintain the conviction.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Others have commented on this.  Dean Knight for instance &lt;a href="http://www.laws179.co.nz/2011/10/covert-surveillance-labours-bottom-line.html#more"&gt;said&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;I understand the concern about not wanting to open up the floodgates, to free criminals already convicted. But this caveat means the legislation would still have some retrospective effect, deeming lawful what has been found to be unlawful.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;So why did the committee do this? &amp;nbsp;The National MP's report in the bill contains this interesting passage:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Prior to [the date of the Supreme Court in Hamed], covert video camera surveillance was not prohibited under common law, and convictions were lawfully obtained on the basis of its results.  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;This continues the &lt;a href="http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/2011/09/covert-surveillance-should-not-be.html"&gt;National line&lt;/a&gt; that &lt;i&gt;Hamed&lt;/i&gt; was a bolt out of the blue and caught everyone by surprise. &amp;nbsp;As I argued previously I thought that this was a gross misrepresentation of the state of the law and, &lt;a href="http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/2011/09/submit-but-you-only-have-today-to-do-so.html"&gt;backed by some very clear comments by a number of Justices&lt;/a&gt; the Police's position that they were caught by surprise was clearly untenable.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The Rule of Law requires that access to the Courts is maintained for all and the effect of a law change should not be retrospective unless there are good reasons.  As far as I can see no estimate of the number of cases that may have been affected was made and I suspect it would be few. &amp;nbsp;The time for filing such an appeal would have expired and special leave would be required. &amp;nbsp;There is the extra difficulty that Section 30 of the Evidence Act 2007 still allows the admission of improperly obtained evidence. &amp;nbsp;But Parliament should not shut off chances of an appeal on the basis that it may not like the decision. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Of course only historical cases only would be affected and there would be no implications for current video surveillance operations. &amp;nbsp;There could be an unknown number of appeals, probably very few but the Committee did not know. &amp;nbsp;And the chances of success would be remote. &amp;nbsp;But if the rule of law applies then this possibility should be preserved.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Labour went along with it, &lt;a href="http://blog.labour.org.nz/index.php/2011/09/30/bottom-lines-on-search-and-surveillance/"&gt;reluctantly&lt;/a&gt;. &amp;nbsp;It is clear that this was part of a package deal. &amp;nbsp;They have improved the bill greatly but I am sure the Nats put this dead rat in so that Labour would be tainted.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Not that this exonerates National. &amp;nbsp;They proposed the change. &amp;nbsp;They have obviously insisted that it remain despite the fact there is no evidence suggesting this change is necessary. &amp;nbsp;The oft quoted statistic of there being 90 cases under threat obviously does not apply. &amp;nbsp;The fact that the objections to retrospectively are now more muted does not make it right.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Keith Locke was the Green Member on the Committee and filed a minority report.  He said:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The bill retrospectively denies any person already convicted the right to use the Hamed decision as part of an appeal. That is contrary to a fundamental legal principle, that people engaged in court proceed- ings have resort to the law as it applied at the time of the alleged offence …&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Labour through the select committee process has improved the bill tremendously and should be complimented for this. &amp;nbsp;But the ruling out of appeals is a knee jerk reaction that may have been totally unnecessary but is still a breach of long existing constitutional principles. &amp;nbsp; Politics is a absolute mud pit sometimes …&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/942819925463058432-2363243702877696882?l=waitakerenews.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/feeds/2363243702877696882/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=942819925463058432&amp;postID=2363243702877696882' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/2363243702877696882'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/2363243702877696882'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/2011/10/video-surveillance-bill-is-much.html' title='The Video Surveillance Bill is much improved, but ...'/><author><name>mickysavage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16293708548352713924</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_80M5EXfefKc/R-IovH7v_KI/AAAAAAAAABM/qQyaZJmhNCY/S220/mickysavage.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-oqiCyaULm2c/Too-vCWhLGI/AAAAAAAAAPQ/EVsGpumTr9k/s72-c/Constitution+Image.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942819925463058432.post-9011889013607526802</id><published>2011-09-28T01:20:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-09-28T01:35:21.628-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Submit!  But you only have today to do so ...</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-vvLx4S5GtwE/Tnm3YPybn8I/AAAAAAAAAPM/aQsA0predGU/s1600/Urewera+18.jpeg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-vvLx4S5GtwE/Tnm3YPybn8I/AAAAAAAAAPM/aQsA0predGU/s1600/Urewera+18.jpeg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Following is my submission to Parliament on the Video Camera Surveillance (Temporary Measures) Bill. &amp;nbsp;Please submit if you have the chance, although the timeline is so truncated that you have to get them in today ...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;You can submit online &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.parliament.nz/en-NZ/PB/SC/MakeSub/5/0/e/49SCJE_SCF_00DBHOH_BILL11056_1-Video-Camera-Surveillance-Temporary.htm"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-layout-grid-align: none; text-autospace: none;"&gt;&lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;My submission:&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-layout-grid-align: none; text-autospace: none;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12.0pt; margin-left: 36.0pt; margin-right: 0cm; margin-top: 0cm; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; text-autospace: none; text-indent: -36.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;1.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;The chance to present this submission is appreciated.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12.0pt; margin-left: 36.0pt; margin-right: 0cm; margin-top: 0cm; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; text-autospace: none; text-indent: -36.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;2.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Because of the extraordinarily short timeframes this submission is hastily drafted and the analysis less than perfect.&amp;nbsp; Changes to law should always unless completely unavoidable be conducted carefully and with as great an opportunity for submissions to be presented as is possible.&amp;nbsp; &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12.0pt; margin-left: 36.0pt; margin-right: 0cm; margin-top: 0cm; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; text-autospace: none; text-indent: -36.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #262626;"&gt;3.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;My primary concern that will be addressed in this submission is that the proposed legislation has a retrospective effect.&amp;nbsp; The constitutional convention is that legislation with retrospective effect should never occur unless there are exceptional reasons to do so.&amp;nbsp; If passed the law change will affect current trials apart from the Urewera trial itself.&amp;nbsp; The Government maintains that there are exceptional reasons, the Attorney General maintains that the bill is &lt;span style="color: #262626;"&gt;just to “preserve the common law prior to the Supreme Court decision”.&amp;nbsp; If this is not the case then I submit that retrospective legislation cannot be justified.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36.0pt; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; mso-pagination: none; text-autospace: none; text-indent: -36.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #262626;"&gt;4.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: #262626;"&gt;So what was the “common law” before the Supreme Court decision?&amp;nbsp; A distinction needs to be made between “over the fence” surveillance where the filming occurs from a place where there is authority for the camera to be, for instance in a public place or from property where the owner or occupier has given specific permission, and filming where a trespass has to occur for the camera to be put in place.&amp;nbsp; There are cases suggesting the former can be acceptable but to my reading there is little if any jurisprudence concerning the latter.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36.0pt; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-pagination: none; text-autospace: none; text-indent: -36.0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36.0pt; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; mso-pagination: none; text-autospace: none; text-indent: -36.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #262626;"&gt;5.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: #262626;"&gt;It has been claimed that a number of Court of Appeal decisions over the past 15 years have established the right for the Police to use covert surveillance.&amp;nbsp; Decisions commonly cited include &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"&gt;Gardiner&lt;/i&gt; (CA239/97), &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"&gt;Fraser&lt;/i&gt; (CA19/97), &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;Hodgkinson&lt;/i&gt; (CA221/10)&lt;span style="color: #262626;"&gt; and the Court of Appeal’s consideration of &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"&gt;Hamed&lt;/i&gt; itself. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-pagination: none; text-autospace: none;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36.0pt; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; mso-pagination: none; text-autospace: none; text-indent: -36.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #262626;"&gt;6.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #262626;"&gt;Gardiner&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="color: #262626;"&gt; and &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"&gt;Fraser&lt;/i&gt; both involved filming from a place where a trespass did not occur. In each case the Court took the view that unless police actions in undertaking video surveillance are prohibited by statute or otherwise constitute an actionable wrong such as trespass, they are lawful at common law. &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"&gt;Gardiner&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"&gt;Fraser&lt;/i&gt; involved filming that was considered not to be too intrusive and in both cases the evidence obtained was admitted. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-pagination: none; text-autospace: none;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36.0pt; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; mso-pagination: none; text-autospace: none; text-indent: -36.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #262626;"&gt;7.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #262626;"&gt;Hodgkinson&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="color: #262626;"&gt; contained obiter comments which suggest that covert video surveillance could occur pursuant to a search warrant issued under the Summary Proceedings Act 1957.&amp;nbsp; It is noted that the date of this decision was September 1, 2010, well after the filming in the Urewera case commenced.&amp;nbsp; Interestingly in this case &lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"&gt;the Crown conceded&lt;/b&gt; that a Summary Proceedings Act search warrant &lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"&gt;could not authorise&lt;/b&gt; unmanned video surveillance (paragraph 42).&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-pagination: none; text-autospace: none;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36.0pt; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; mso-pagination: none; text-autospace: none; text-indent: -36.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #262626;"&gt;8.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: #262626;"&gt;The Court of Appeal when considering &lt;i&gt;Hamed&lt;/i&gt; thought that the filming was authorised by the search warrants that were issued and that there was no difficulty in allowing the evidence to be produced.&amp;nbsp; This was overruled by all of the members of the Supreme Court on appeal.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-pagination: none; text-autospace: none;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36.0pt; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; mso-pagination: none; text-autospace: none; text-indent: -36.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #262626;"&gt;9.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: #262626;"&gt;So &lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"&gt;none&lt;/b&gt; of the cases relied on ruled that evidence obtained through covert surveillance that involved a trespass was admissible or that there was a right to video &lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"&gt;covertly&lt;/b&gt;.&amp;nbsp; In two cases no trespass occurred, in the third discretion was exercised to allow the evidence in, and in the fourth it was thought the search warrant provided authority for the filming but the decision was made on the basis that it did not.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36.0pt; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-pagination: none; text-autospace: none; text-indent: -36.0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36.0pt; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; mso-pagination: none; text-autospace: none; text-indent: -36.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #262626;"&gt;10.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;When you consider the recommendations of the Law Commission in 2007 and the&lt;span style="color: #262626;"&gt; fact that the Search and Surveillance Bill introduced two years ago was to address the problems identified in the Commission’s report you really have to question the contention that the common law was settled.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-pagination: none; text-autospace: none;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36.0pt; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; mso-pagination: none; text-autospace: none; text-indent: -36.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #262626;"&gt;11.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: #262626;"&gt;What is really disturbing is that the contention runs counter to a number of clear judicial pronouncements and rulings in the &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"&gt;Hamed&lt;/i&gt; case.&amp;nbsp; These include the following (all taken from the Supreme Court decision in &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"&gt;Hamed&lt;/i&gt;):&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-pagination: none; text-autospace: none;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table border="1" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="MsoNormalTable" style="border-collapse: collapse; border: none; margin-left: 36.0pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-insideh: .5pt solid windowtext; mso-border-insidev: .5pt solid windowtext; mso-padding-alt: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; mso-yfti-tbllook: 1184;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr style="mso-yfti-firstrow: yes; mso-yfti-irow: 0;"&gt;   &lt;td style="border: solid windowtext 1.0pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 111.15pt;" valign="top" width="111"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-pagination: none; text-autospace: none;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #262626;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Chief Justice Elias&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td style="border-left: none; border: solid windowtext 1.0pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-left-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 288.9pt;" valign="top" width="289"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-pagination: none; text-autospace: none;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #262626;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;“[73] I regard it as a significantly   exacerbating factor that the film surveillance was undertaken &lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"&gt;deliberately without legal authority&lt;/b&gt;,   in the &lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"&gt;knowledge&lt;/b&gt; that there was no   lawful investigatory technique available to be used. … [i]n circumstances   where the police officer in charge of the inquiry &lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"&gt;knew&lt;/b&gt; that there was &lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"&gt;no   authority&lt;/b&gt; to be obtained for such filmed surveillance, the deliberate   unlawfulness of the police conduct in the covert filming, maintained over   many entries and over a period of some 10 months, is destructive of an   effective and credible system of justice.”&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr style="mso-yfti-irow: 1;"&gt;   &lt;td style="border-top: none; border: solid windowtext 1.0pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 111.15pt;" valign="top" width="111"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-pagination: none; text-autospace: none;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #262626;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Justice Blanchard&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td style="border-bottom: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-left: none; border-right: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-top: none; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-left-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 288.9pt;" valign="top" width="289"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-pagination: none; text-autospace: none;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #262626;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;“[175] … [e]ven taking the view most   favourable to them, the police seem to have been prepared over and over to &lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"&gt;run the risk&lt;/b&gt; of acting in breach of   the law. They did not obtain legal advice and should have done so.”&amp;nbsp;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-pagination: none; text-autospace: none;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #262626;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;“[194] … [t]he police understood that   the warrants did not authorise the video surveillance and that their conduct   in relation to the video surveillance &lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"&gt;might   well be legally questionable&lt;/b&gt;.”&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr style="mso-yfti-irow: 2;"&gt;   &lt;td style="border-top: none; border: solid windowtext 1.0pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 111.15pt;" valign="top" width="111"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-pagination: none; text-autospace: none;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #262626;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Justice Tipping&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td style="border-bottom: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-left: none; border-right: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-top: none; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-left-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 288.9pt;" valign="top" width="289"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12.0pt; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-pagination: none; text-autospace: none;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;“[234] If the breach was not   deliberate it was &lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"&gt;undoubtedly reckless&lt;/b&gt;   because, at best, &lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"&gt;the position in law   was decidedly unclear&lt;/b&gt; and, in the very difficult and unusual   circumstances facing them, the police, extraordinary as it may seem, did not   obtain any legal advice. It is difficult to resist the inference that formal   legal advice was not sought because the police knew or strongly suspected   what the advice would be and that it would make it more difficult for them to   proceed as they intended.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12.0pt; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-pagination: none; text-autospace: none;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;[235] In view of the conclusion I   have reached, it is not necessary to determine whether this state of affairs   amounted to bad faith. It is enough to say that I find it &lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"&gt;impossible to hold that the police   honestly believed that the video surveillance was lawfully undertaken&lt;/b&gt;.”&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr style="mso-yfti-irow: 3;"&gt;   &lt;td style="border-top: none; border: solid windowtext 1.0pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 111.15pt;" valign="top" width="111"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-pagination: none; text-autospace: none;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #262626;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Justice McGrath&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td style="border-bottom: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-left: none; border-right: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-top: none; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-left-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 288.9pt;" valign="top" width="289"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12.0pt; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-pagination: none; text-autospace: none;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;“[278] … It would be unfair to the   appellants to fully vindicate the police actions simply because the &lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"&gt;unlawfulness largely stemmed from a   sluggish response elsewhere in government&lt;/b&gt; to the courts’ concerns over   the absence of legislation on the subject of video surveillance.”&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr style="mso-yfti-irow: 4; mso-yfti-lastrow: yes;"&gt;   &lt;td style="border-top: none; border: solid windowtext 1.0pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 111.15pt;" valign="top" width="111"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-pagination: none; text-autospace: none;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #262626;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Justice Winkelmann (High Court)&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td style="border-bottom: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-left: none; border-right: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-top: none; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-left-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 288.9pt;" valign="top" width="289"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-pagination: none; text-autospace: none;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #262626;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Made a finding that the police   continued to use surveillance cameras &lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"&gt;with   the knowledge, at a senior level at least, that they had no lawful authority   to do so&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-pagination: none; text-autospace: none;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12.0pt; margin-left: 36.0pt; margin-right: 0cm; margin-top: 0cm; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; text-autospace: none; text-indent: -36.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;12.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: #262626;"&gt;The Government’s contention is clearly counter to explicit recent findings by the Judiciary.&amp;nbsp; The Attorney General is saying that four Supreme Court Justices are wrong.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12.0pt; margin-left: 36.0pt; margin-right: 0cm; margin-top: 0cm; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; text-autospace: none; text-indent: -36.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;13.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: #262626;"&gt;I submit that Clause 5(1)(a) should be deleted in its entirety.&amp;nbsp; To legislate retrospectively is repugnant to all sorts of understandings of constitutional propriety.&amp;nbsp; The purported justification is clearly not agreed to by the Judiciary and the use of this justification has the potential to adversely affect the relationship between Parliament and the Judiciary.&amp;nbsp; The fact that the changes are being rushed through only makes things worse, much worse.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12.0pt; margin-left: 36.0pt; margin-right: 0cm; margin-top: 0cm; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; text-autospace: none; text-indent: -36.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;14.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: #262626;"&gt;The country is in the interesting situation where the Government is prepared to advance an argument which four Supreme Court Justices have expressly ruled against to justify action that in constitutional terms is appalling.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; The Government’s justification, that the law was settled, was not accepted by the Supreme Court.&amp;nbsp; If this legislation is passed we are in for an interesting time.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 11pt;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/942819925463058432-9011889013607526802?l=waitakerenews.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/feeds/9011889013607526802/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=942819925463058432&amp;postID=9011889013607526802' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/9011889013607526802'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/9011889013607526802'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/2011/09/submit-but-you-only-have-today-to-do-so.html' title='Submit!  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the Government is rolling out in response to the Supreme Court decision in &lt;a href="http://www.courtsofnz.govt.nz/cases/hamed-v-r/?searchterm=Hamed%20CA"&gt;Hamed&lt;/a&gt; is looking like a well-choreographed dance.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Two months before the election the Government is planning to ram through legislation that is constitutionally abhorrent and trying to put Labour in a position where it has no choice but to oppose.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Labour is intending to put up an &lt;a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/5691606/Labour-puts-up-own-surveillance-fixit-bill"&gt;alternative bill&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;But I am sure that it will not succeed and I am reasonably certain that the Government will ensure that its bill has retrospective effect no matter what the damage to our constitution.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;There are all sorts of constitutional principles at play here.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Courts determine the law, and if Parliament does not agree with a Court’s interpretation of the law then it has the option to change the law through legislation.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;By convention however it does not change the law with retrospective effect.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Citizens need to have the benefit of certainty of the law.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Changes should be gradual and subject to intense scrutiny with the ability of citizens to comment.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;And once a citizen is charged it is almost unheard of for Parliament to change the rules.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;By doing so it may effectively be legislating to send citizens to jail without the benefit of the rule of law applying and in constitutional terms this is the sort of thing you would expect from modern day Fiji or Zimbabwe, not New Zealand.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;It is accepted that where well-settled law is found to be defective or there is a mistake then retrospective legislation may be appropriate.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;This is why the Government has consistently said that its bill is just to “preserve the common law prior to the Supreme Court decision”.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;If this is not the case then retrospective legislation cannot be justified.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;So what was the common law before the Supreme Court decision?&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;A distinction needs to be made between “over the fence” surveillance where the filming occurs from a place where there is authority for the camera to be, for instance in a public place or from property where the owner or occupier has given specific permission, and filming where a trespass has to occur for the camera to be put in place.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12.0pt; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-pagination: none; text-autospace: none;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;There are three decisions, Gardiner (CA239/97), Fraser (CA19/97) and the Court of Appeal’s consideration of Hamed itself. Gardiner and Fraser both involved filming from a place where a trespass did not occur. In each case the Court took the view that unless police actions in undertaking video surveillance are prohibited by statute or otherwise constitute an actionable wrong such as trespass, they are lawful at common law. Gardiner and Fraser involved filming that was considered not to be too intrusive and in both cases the evidence obtained was admitted. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The Court of Appeal when considering &lt;i&gt;Hamed&lt;/i&gt; thought that the filming was authorised by the search warrants that were issued and that there was no difficulty in allowing the evidence to be produced.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;This was overruled by all of the members of the Supreme Court on appeal.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;So none of the cases relied on ruled that evidence obtained through covert surveillance that involved a trespass was admissible.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;In two cases no trespass occurred, in the third it was thought the search warrant provided authority for the filming.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;When you add &lt;a href="http://www.lawcom.govt.nz/project/search-and-surveillance-powers"&gt;the recommendations of the Law Commission in 2007 &lt;/a&gt;and the fact that the Search and Surveillance Bill introduced two years ago was to address the problems identified in the Commission’s report you really have to question the contention that the law was settled.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The Supreme Court commented on this and formed a totally different view.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12.0pt; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-pagination: none; text-autospace: none;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU" style="mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"&gt;Chief Justice Elias said “&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"&gt;I regard it as a significantly exacerbating factor that the film surveillance was undertaken deliberately without legal authority, in the knowledge that there was no lawful investigatory technique available to be used.”&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Further, “[i]n circumstances where the police officer in charge of the inquiry knew that there was no authority to be obtained for such filmed surveillance, the deliberate unlawfulness of the police conduct in the covert filming, maintained over many entries and over a period of some 10 months, is destructive of an effective and credible system of justice.”&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12.0pt; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-pagination: none; text-autospace: none;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Justice Blanchard more charitably said “[e]ven taking the view most favourable to them, the police seem to have been prepared over and over to run the risk of acting in breach of the law. They did not obtain legal advice and should have done so.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;He further said, “… The police understood that the warrants did not authorise the video surveillance and that their conduct in relation to the video surveillance might well be legally questionable. Winkelmann J [in the High Court] made a finding that the police continued to use surveillance cameras with the knowledge, at a senior level at least, that they had no lawful authority to do so.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;So we seem to be heading to a constitutional crisis where the Government is prepared to advance an argument that the Supreme Court has ruled against to justify action that in constitutional terms is appalling.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;The Government’s justification, that the law was settled, was not accepted by the Supreme Court.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;If this legislation is passed we are in for an interesting time.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU" style="mso-bidi-font-family: 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href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/2011/09/covert-surveillance-should-not-be.html' title='Covert surveillance should not be allowed retrospectively'/><author><name>mickysavage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16293708548352713924</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_80M5EXfefKc/R-IovH7v_KI/AAAAAAAAABM/qQyaZJmhNCY/S220/mickysavage.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-vvLx4S5GtwE/Tnm3YPybn8I/AAAAAAAAAPM/aQsA0predGU/s72-c/Urewera+18.jpeg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942819925463058432.post-6219242848907033006</id><published>2011-09-21T03:55:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-09-27T01:21:56.846-07:00</updated><title type='text'>The Rule of Law should apply to everyone</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-vvLx4S5GtwE/Tnm3YPybn8I/AAAAAAAAAPM/aQsA0predGU/s1600/Urewera+18.jpeg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-vvLx4S5GtwE/Tnm3YPybn8I/AAAAAAAAAPM/aQsA0predGU/s1600/Urewera+18.jpeg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The Government's &lt;a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;amp;objectid=10752855"&gt;announcement&lt;/a&gt; that it intends to overturn the &lt;a href="http://www.courtsofnz.govt.nz/cases/hamed-v-r/at_download/fileDecision"&gt;decision of the Supreme Court &lt;/a&gt;to exclude evidence in the Urewera 18 trial has attracted considerable recent comment.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;What is proposed is legislation to overturn the decision of the Supreme Court on a temporary basis only while the law was sorted out. &amp;nbsp;It has been made to sound like a small deal and since we are dealing with criminals what could possibly be wrong? &amp;nbsp;Well significant constitutional principles including the rule of law and the division of responsibilities between the State and the Judiciary but apart from that nothing really.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The issue has received some heavyweight analysis from the likes of &lt;a href="http://www.laws179.co.nz/2011/09/covert-video-surveillance-and-covert.html"&gt;Dean Knight&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://pundit.co.nz/content/too-many-problems-why-am-i-here"&gt;Andrew Geddes&lt;/a&gt;. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The debate has sparked some interesting views. &amp;nbsp;For instance the &lt;a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;amp;objectid=10753185"&gt;Herald Editorial this morning&lt;/a&gt; argued persuasively that the proposed law change was wrong in principle yet in the same paper &lt;a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/john-armstrong-on-politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=1502865&amp;amp;objectid=10753198"&gt;John Armstrong thought&lt;/a&gt; that Goff would be forced to agree to it. &amp;nbsp;He did not analyse what was happening but thought that there might be political damage if Phil Goff decides to act in a way which academics and others would consider to be completely justifiable in terms of constitutional principles.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;And this afternoon there were some developments. &amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/5658023/ACT-won-t-support-fixit-law-under-urgency"&gt;ACT said&lt;/a&gt; they would support the introduction of the bill but wanted it to go to Select Committee, mimicking part of the the stance adopted by the Labour Party, and in what may be a first the bill was released to the parties.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Charles Chauvel took the opportunity to &lt;a href="http://blog.labour.org.nz/index.php/2011/09/21/surveillance-bill-letter-on-public-record/"&gt;release the text of the Bill&lt;/a&gt; and crowd sourcing analysis of the bill is possible. &amp;nbsp;This sort of thing should happen more often.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The &lt;a href="http://blog.labour.org.nz/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Draft-Bill.pdf"&gt;bill itself&lt;/a&gt; is short, as are most if not all of the other bills the Government has rammed through urgency without select committee overview. &amp;nbsp;The message is how could you oppose just a slight change but as shown by the introduction of National Standards little tweaks can have significant effects. &amp;nbsp;And the &lt;a href="http://thestandard.org.nz/the-dust-settles-on-the-hobbit-fiasco/"&gt;Hobbit Worker Emasculation Bill&lt;/a&gt; had to be amended because it was not drafted properly. &amp;nbsp;Slowing down the process and allowing institutions such as the Law Society to provide comment can have beneficial effects.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The Bill essentially says to the police that up to now and for the next 12 months use of a video camera to record evidence is and has been not of itself illegal. &amp;nbsp;For the next 12 months use of video has been given carte blanche. &amp;nbsp;Of course this does not otherwise affect the admissibility of evidence but if a camera is used then unless some other breach of rights has occurred all is fine.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;This should be contrasted to the provisions of the &lt;a href="http://www.legislation.govt.nz/bill/government/2009/0045/latest/whole.html#DLM2136542"&gt;Search and Surveillance Bill&lt;/a&gt;. &amp;nbsp;That provides for the granting of Surveillance Device Warrants following application. &amp;nbsp;These require an application to a Judge who must be persuaded on a variety of matters before an application is granted. &amp;nbsp;For instance they should not issue a warrant that allows the police to record discussions between a citizen and their lawyer.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;So for the next 12 months if the legislation is passed Police can set up cameras wherever they want, after that time there will be Judicial permission that needs to be obtained. &amp;nbsp;There is a restriction, the videoing has to be associated with a search that is legal, but this means that if a warrant is issued to search for stolen items then not only can the Police enter and seize the items, but they can also set up cameras to capture evidence in the future. &amp;nbsp;They cannot do this now.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;It seems to me that if passed the Search and Surveillance Bill will actually wind back the powers the Police will have if the proposed bill is passed under urgency.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The most upsetting aspect of the proposed bill is that it is retrospective. &amp;nbsp;Most of the remaining Urewera 17 will have the benefit of their judgment preserved as it should be. &amp;nbsp;But others with cases before the Courts may find that the rules have changed. &amp;nbsp;Imagine if you have been charged, you engage legal assistance and prepare to fight the case but then the rules change to make your defence more difficult. &amp;nbsp;This is as appalling as you can get in terms of constitutional principles. &amp;nbsp;The basic idea is that Parliament makes the law, the Courts interpret the law and if Parliament does not like this it then it introduces an amending Act, this goes to a select committee so that the public and interested entities can make submissions, and then after a comprehensive debate the changes may or may not with or without changes be enacted. &amp;nbsp;The constitutional convention is that any law change is not retrospective unless there are extraordinarily good reasons. &amp;nbsp;This Government is proposing that these principles are not applied and that the rules are changed during the course of a number of cases.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;If enacted the law change is a message to the Judiciary that if the executive does not like the decision then it will overturn it, retrospectively. &amp;nbsp;This tramples all sorts of understandings and conventions. &amp;nbsp;Does the Government expect the Judiciary to do what it wants, rather than do what the law requires?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;For Labour the response should be easy. &amp;nbsp;What is proposed is a constitutional abomination and should be opposed at all costs.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/942819925463058432-6219242848907033006?l=waitakerenews.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/feeds/6219242848907033006/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=942819925463058432&amp;postID=6219242848907033006' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/6219242848907033006'/><link rel='self' 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width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942819925463058432.post-9201204374045875929</id><published>2011-09-10T15:40:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-09-11T13:14:46.937-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Tau and Paula have had bad weeks</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-hjVRAktMwr4/TmvkvKUgXlI/AAAAAAAAAPI/E7MWzGoA0ck/s1600/PaulaBennett+proud+to+be+a+westie.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-hjVRAktMwr4/TmvkvKUgXlI/AAAAAAAAAPI/E7MWzGoA0ck/s1600/PaulaBennett+proud+to+be+a+westie.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 15.0pt; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-pagination: none; text-autospace: none;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 15.0pt; mso-layout-grid-align: none; mso-pagination: none; text-autospace: none;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;I really enjoyed reading the Herald this week.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;Firstly there was a &lt;a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;amp;objectid=10750217"&gt;story about Tau Henare&lt;/a&gt; being involved in a road rage incident where he reportedly cut a car off and then proceeded to “flip the bird” to and abuse the upset victim who had tooted him because of his driving.  Tau was obviously hurting from his recent demotion down National's list. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He must have missed the Crosby Textor memo that stated that National MPs should if at all possible not act like testosterone fuelled gits.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Then there was a &lt;a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&amp;amp;objectid=10750153"&gt;story about how fellow pseudo westie Paula Bennett&lt;/a&gt; had been accused of lying.  This incident presents a classic example of “spin” over substance and highlights why many are turned off politics.  Instead of there being a reasoned attempt to analyse and deal with a funding situation she chose to blame Labour for what is essentially a budgeting matter.  And the shrill extreme language that she chose led Labour to claim that she was lying. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It all started with a &lt;a href="http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA1109/S00112/questions-and-answers-sept-6.htm"&gt;question in the house&lt;/a&gt; about the measurement of child poverty.  During the course of a rather heated exchange with Annette King Paula said this about the &lt;a href="http://www.growingup.co.nz/"&gt;Growing Up in New Zealand multidisciplinary study&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;When Labour left office it had not fully funded it through to subsequent years. It had set it up but not actually funded it going forward.” &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;The &lt;a href="http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA1109/S00164/questions-and-answers-sept-7.htm"&gt;next day&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt; in response to a further question Bennett said:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;However, it [Labour] had not funded it ongoing, so within weeks of being in this job I was informed that we had to find money to keep the study going. I had to go to my colleagues, cap in hand, and ask them to find some money out of their baseline funding. We have since put millions of dollars more into that study and do support it. But $25.9 million into the longitudinal Growing Up in New Zealand study, coming out of taxpayers’ pockets, is a lot of money and I think it is an incredibly fair investment in that programme.” &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;She also said later that “there were no appropriations ongoing from the previous Government for that study.” &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;She was asked if she would apoligise when it is shown that funding from the Ministry of Social Development stops in July 2012, as King had been advised by the University of Auckland. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;She responded “I will apologise when the previous Government apologises as well for the hole in funding it left the programme with.” &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That night just before the session finished she returned and asked to correct her former answer.  She said that the correct amount of funding was $23.3 million, not $25.9 million. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This has left Labour MPs incredulous because the funding was there for the programme to 2012.  In 2008 the &lt;a href="http://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/growing-substantial-investment-nz-families"&gt;Labour Government announced&lt;/a&gt; $7.5 million start up funding for the program and there was further funding of $6 million over future years.  Quite clearly Bennett’s comment that there were no appropriations ongoing is, well, not correct. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It may be that she has had to secure extra funding and the $13.5 million pledged by Labour was not enough.  But she should have said this rather than spinning her claims to the furthest possible extent.  By doing so she has made herself look like she does not know what she is talking about. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Interestingly Auckland University put out a press release that day where it repeated Bennett’s original incorrect figure for funding.  For some reason there is no sign of the press release on the Auckland University website.  What is the bet that the press release was prepared by the Minister’s office?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/942819925463058432-9201204374045875929?l=waitakerenews.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/feeds/9201204374045875929/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=942819925463058432&amp;postID=9201204374045875929' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/9201204374045875929'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/9201204374045875929'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/2011/09/tau-and-paula-have-had-bad-weeks.html' title='Tau and Paula have had bad weeks'/><author><name>mickysavage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16293708548352713924</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_80M5EXfefKc/R-IovH7v_KI/AAAAAAAAABM/qQyaZJmhNCY/S220/mickysavage.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-hjVRAktMwr4/TmvkvKUgXlI/AAAAAAAAAPI/E7MWzGoA0ck/s72-c/PaulaBennett+proud+to+be+a+westie.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942819925463058432.post-7324926526078163876</id><published>2011-08-27T17:28:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-08-27T17:28:40.360-07:00</updated><title type='text'>The campaign for the Waitakere seat</title><content type='html'>       &lt;!--[if gte mso 9]&gt;&lt;xml&gt; 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text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-XqDGn6tC93c/TlmKhHGL2iI/AAAAAAAAAPE/JXmm3G3KACU/s1600/Carmel+Sepuloni2.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="213" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-XqDGn6tC93c/TlmKhHGL2iI/AAAAAAAAAPE/JXmm3G3KACU/s320/Carmel+Sepuloni2.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The campaign for the Waitakere seat promises to be one of the most interesting on election night.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Cabinet Minister and &lt;a href="http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/2011/06/paulas-latest-lecture.html"&gt;pseudo westie&lt;/a&gt; Paula Bennett is against up and coming Labour list MP Carmel Sepuloni.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;The Greens are standing &lt;a href="http://futurewest.org.nz/waitakere-ranges/steve-tollestrup/"&gt;Steve Tollestrup&lt;/a&gt; who stood on the Labour/Green/Community alliance Future West for the Waitakere Ranges Local Board last year and there are rumours that former Green MP Sue Bradford may be standing.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The seat has for some time been a marginal one.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;In &lt;a href="http://2008.electionresults.govt.nz/electionresults_1999/e9/html/cand_56.html"&gt;1999&lt;/a&gt;, despite the swing towards Labour, Brian Neeson won the seat over Jonathan Hunt with a 4,056 majority.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Admittedly back then the seat was very rural and quite different to its current form.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;In &lt;a href="http://2008.electionresults.govt.nz/electionresults_2002/electorate-57.html"&gt;2002&lt;/a&gt; in a strong three way contest Lynne Pillay won over Laila Harre by 2,333 votes.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;National’s Marie Hasler was a distant third.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;In &lt;a href="http://2005.electionresults.govt.nz/electionresults_2005/electorate-57.html"&gt;2005&lt;/a&gt; Pillay managed to beat Paula Bennett by 4,942 votes.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;In &lt;a href="http://2008.electionresults.govt.nz/electionresults_2008/electorate-57.html"&gt;2008&lt;/a&gt; the tables were turned and Bennett won against Pillay by 632 votes.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;The swing was relatively small (in 2008 terms) at around 7%.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Many seats had much greater swings away from Labour. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The seat is the most marginal National held seat in the Auckland region.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;The west is traditionally a Labour stronghold and to remove a National Cabinet Minister would be a great morale boost for the local organization and the party at large.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.facebook.com/pages/Carmel-Sepuloni/73080058673"&gt;Carmel Sepuloni&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;won the nomination i&lt;/span&gt;n a &lt;a href="http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/2010/03/and-winner-is.html"&gt;hotly contested selection&lt;/a&gt; and prevailed over other candidates.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Current polling suggests that Bennett is safe but the local Labour organisation has been campaigning strongly.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;A great deal of canvassing has been completed and there have been a number of public meetings.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Sepuloni’s performance and visibility have been good and Bennett should be worried.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The result will probably depend however on votes for third party candidates.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;In &lt;a href="http://2005.electionresults.govt.nz/electionresults_2005/electorate-57.html"&gt;2005&lt;/a&gt; the NZ First candidate, local Police Officer Brendan Stewart, performed credibly and achieved 1,354 votes.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;The NZ First Party vote was 1,806 and the Labour-National party vote majority was 4,012.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;In 2008 the NZ First candidate Craig McNair only achieved 597 votes while the party achieved 1,117 votes.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Also relevant is the 448 votes achieved by the NZ Pacific Party candidate Fia Misa Tupou.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;As far as I am aware there will not be a NZ Pacific candidate this time and Carmel should pick up the bulk of these votes.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Also Michael Kidd of the Family Party achieved 358 votes.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Although the party could be considered conservative Michael is now a member of the Labour Party and sought the party’s nomination for the Te Atatu seat as well as the Waitakere seat.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Of further note is the fact that in &lt;a href="http://2008.electionresults.govt.nz/electionresults_2008/electorate-57.html"&gt;2008&lt;/a&gt; there was no United Future candidate.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;In 2005 Hannah Baral picked up 1,035 votes.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Presumably many of these votes went Paula’s way in 2008.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The votes recorded for these candidates were not huge but with in razor edge contest the redistribution of these votes will be vital.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Sue Bradford’s presence could be the most telling factor on the result.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;She will not win the seat and I am sure she will emphasise the campaign for the party vote.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;But in a close contest any electorate votes she achieves will be vital.&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;If her goal is to take the contest to Paula Bennett then she could achieve this either by endorsing Carmel or even better by not standing in Waitakere but campaigning as a list candidate out west.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!--EndFragment--&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/942819925463058432-7324926526078163876?l=waitakerenews.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/feeds/7324926526078163876/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=942819925463058432&amp;postID=7324926526078163876' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/7324926526078163876'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/7324926526078163876'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/2011/08/campaign-for-waitakere-seat.html' title='The campaign for the Waitakere seat'/><author><name>mickysavage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16293708548352713924</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_80M5EXfefKc/R-IovH7v_KI/AAAAAAAAABM/qQyaZJmhNCY/S220/mickysavage.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-XqDGn6tC93c/TlmKhHGL2iI/AAAAAAAAAPE/JXmm3G3KACU/s72-c/Carmel+Sepuloni2.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942819925463058432.post-9064288614439474588</id><published>2011-08-20T12:55:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-08-20T12:58:16.956-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Gunning for the Lawyers</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Nn39g3ZQRwQ/Tk95ftQoNXI/AAAAAAAAAPA/WJsR4lzYeWs/s1600/Simon+Power.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="213" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Nn39g3ZQRwQ/Tk95ftQoNXI/AAAAAAAAAPA/WJsR4lzYeWs/s320/Simon+Power.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span id="goog_1764763323"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span id="goog_1764763324"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Simon Power’s blitzreig on the legal profession continues.&amp;nbsp; This week he introduced &lt;a href="http://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/bill-tackle-legal-aid-growth-passes-first-reading"&gt;legislation&lt;/a&gt; to complete the evisceration of the legal aid system.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;National have continuously used the expression “&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; line-height: 14px;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 14px;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/proposals-tackle-unaffordable-growth-legal-aid"&gt;unaffordable and unsustainable&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;” to describe recent increases in legal aid expenditure.&amp;nbsp; There was a 60% increase in the total amount spent from 2006 to 2009 but the rise was entirely predictable and due to policy changes, legislative changes and increased demand.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The policy changes increased the level of eligibility so that instead of 700,000 kiwis being eligible for legal aid that figure became 1.3 million.&amp;nbsp; There was also a modest increase in the amounts paid to lawyers.&amp;nbsp; Given that there had been no change in eligibility for decades and in payments for a decade these changes were long overdue.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The legislative changes include such things as changes to the sentencing laws and the bail laws in the criminal sphere and the introduction of the Care of Children Act 2004 in the family sphere.&amp;nbsp; The criminal law changes meant that more people were locked up and needed representation.&amp;nbsp; The introduction of COCA meant that a more intensive but more therapeutic approach to child custody cases occurred.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Increased demand occurred because more people were being charged and brought before the Court, and included a spike in long, very expensive drugs trials with multiple accused.&amp;nbsp; There was also the requirement that Treaty of Waitangi claims be filed by 2008 and finalised by 2014.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;All in all the increase in expenditure was utterly predictable and no one should have been surprised.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;This did not stop Simon Power suggesting the system was broke.&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href="http://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/bill-tackle-legal-aid-growth-passes-first-reading"&gt;This week&lt;/a&gt; he repeated his previous claim that if nothing was done then costs would blow out by $400 million over the next 5 years.&amp;nbsp; This is a figure that he has stated a number of times before.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;I have not been able to find out how he arrived at that figure but I did some rough calculations.&amp;nbsp; For there to be a total increase of $400 million there would have to be a 13% increase in payments each year for 5 years from 2009. &amp;nbsp;Payments will have to increase from $172m in 2009 to $317m in 2014. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Barring some decision to dramatically increase cover or to give lawyers a further increase in the hourly rate it is difficult in the extreme to see how this can occur.&amp;nbsp; The recent policy decisions should not have to be reconsidered for many years to come.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Interestingly from 2005-06 to 2009-10 the average yearly increase was 13%.&amp;nbsp; It seems that Power has extrapolated this figure out to achieve his $400 million figure.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;But there is something really odd with this analysis.&amp;nbsp; Treasury’s &lt;a href="http://www.treasury.govt.nz/downloads/pdfs/ris-justice-mcla-aug11.pdf"&gt;Regulatory Impact Statement&lt;/a&gt; states that current predictions suggest that by 2014-15 the increase will be $51 million over 2009-10 levels.&amp;nbsp; A yearly increase of 5.4% will be required to achieve this result and the cumulative increase over the 5 year period will be $147 million. &amp;nbsp;Power's figures appear to be more than twice what the Treasury thinks will happen.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;For those who claim that the increase is because of lawyers’ greed the following passage from the Regulatory Impact Statement bears repeating:&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;In the past decade, the only increase in the hourly rate was an increase of 10% in July 2008 (reduced to 8.5% in July 2009). Therefore, the 48% increase was primarily due to increased hours and disbursements per case."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;So legal aid lawyers have had one increase in their hourly rate in the last decade and even that was pared back by this Government.&amp;nbsp; They may have earned more but it is because they are handling more cases and working longer hours on these cases.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The reforms also plan to manage and reduce the amounts paid to Counsel for the Child.&amp;nbsp; This is a scheme where experienced lawyers are appointed to represent children in Care of Children and Care and Protection proceedings.&amp;nbsp; These lawyers perform an outstanding job and are one of the major reasons so many Family Court proceedings are resolved by consent.&amp;nbsp; There has been an increase in the amount spent on these lawyers, again primarily because of changes brought in by the Care of Children Act and associated procedural changes.&amp;nbsp; But there has been no outcry, no attempt to analyse the quality of their representation or the implications of reducing representation for children but again there will be a decrease in their funding.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-AU"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;My basic concern is that Legal Aid is a service designed to ensure that poor people receive adequate legal representation to handle what are exceedingly stressful situations.&amp;nbsp; These cuts are doctrinaire.&amp;nbsp; They will mean that a service for the poor will be impaired.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/942819925463058432-9064288614439474588?l=waitakerenews.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/feeds/9064288614439474588/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=942819925463058432&amp;postID=9064288614439474588' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/9064288614439474588'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/9064288614439474588'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/2011/08/gunning-for-lawyers.html' title='Gunning for the Lawyers'/><author><name>mickysavage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16293708548352713924</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_80M5EXfefKc/R-IovH7v_KI/AAAAAAAAABM/qQyaZJmhNCY/S220/mickysavage.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Nn39g3ZQRwQ/Tk95ftQoNXI/AAAAAAAAAPA/WJsR4lzYeWs/s72-c/Simon+Power.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942819925463058432.post-1266483891314192917</id><published>2011-08-13T15:21:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-08-13T15:21:49.138-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Where have all Paula's Billboards gone?</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-0EbHaUaHYlU/Tkb3oS5qlVI/AAAAAAAAAO4/TQzkOm1mWqE/s1600/Paula+Bennett+billboard+%25281%2529.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="213" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-0EbHaUaHYlU/Tkb3oS5qlVI/AAAAAAAAAO4/TQzkOm1mWqE/s320/Paula+Bennett+billboard+%25281%2529.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;West Auckland has seen an intense billboard war for the past couple of years. &amp;nbsp;Labour billboards announcing joint meetings of the Waitakere based MPs have been part of the local background. &amp;nbsp;National have done the same, sort of. &amp;nbsp;Their billboards advertised the &lt;a href="http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/2010/11/stop-press-paula-bennett-is-visiting.html"&gt;holding of a constituency clinic&lt;/a&gt; and even a meeting about "what it means to be a westie". &amp;nbsp;Pseudo westie Paula made some sort of statement by &lt;a href="http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/2011/06/paulas-latest-lecture.html"&gt;not actually turning up to that meeting&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;But alas, National's billboards, with the exception of a few about Tim Groser have gone. &amp;nbsp;What does this mean? &amp;nbsp;Have they given up? &amp;nbsp;Do they realise that campaigning against Carmel Sepuloni and Phil Twyford is futile and they may as well give up now?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Or is it that using Paula's electorate office as the address for the advertiser breaks Parliamentary Services rules against using electorate offices for campaigning activities?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Whatever the reason is someone should tell Cameron Whaleoil. &amp;nbsp;I hear he is &lt;a href="http://whaleoil.gotcha.co.nz/index.php/2011/06/illegal-use-of-parliamentary-services-funds/"&gt;always interested&lt;/a&gt; in holding all politicians to account, whether they are left wing or right wing.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/942819925463058432-1266483891314192917?l=waitakerenews.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/feeds/1266483891314192917/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=942819925463058432&amp;postID=1266483891314192917' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/1266483891314192917'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/1266483891314192917'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/2011/08/where-have-all-paulas-billboards-gone.html' title='Where have all Paula&apos;s Billboards gone?'/><author><name>mickysavage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16293708548352713924</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_80M5EXfefKc/R-IovH7v_KI/AAAAAAAAABM/qQyaZJmhNCY/S220/mickysavage.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-0EbHaUaHYlU/Tkb3oS5qlVI/AAAAAAAAAO4/TQzkOm1mWqE/s72-c/Paula+Bennett+billboard+%25281%2529.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942819925463058432.post-2574840075843934066</id><published>2011-07-23T20:51:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-07-23T20:51:44.208-07:00</updated><title type='text'>CGT Hell Yeah</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-p7-wvsHzTrA/TiuVHj07skI/AAAAAAAAAOw/QYQJFXzoge4/s1600/Labour+west+CGT+meeting+2.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="213" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-p7-wvsHzTrA/TiuVHj07skI/AAAAAAAAAOw/QYQJFXzoge4/s320/Labour+west+CGT+meeting+2.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The past couple of weeks have gone into unchartered waters. &amp;nbsp;Never have I seen an opposition party totally dominate the debate about our country's economic future the way that Labour has with its&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.ownourfuture.co.nz/"&gt;Capital Gains Tax&lt;/a&gt; proposal.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;To all good lefties the only response is "hell yeah".&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The release has shown a couple of interesting traits. &amp;nbsp;The Labour leadership had the faith to float the idea a week before the official launch and not respond. &amp;nbsp;And David Cunliffe has been given room to talk about the proposal and to present his very detailed sophisticated view of how the economy should be handled in the future. &amp;nbsp;The Nats have attacked. &amp;nbsp;But David has stared down Bill English and &lt;a href="http://blog.labour.org.nz/index.php/2011/07/19/lies-damned-lies-and-steven-joyce/"&gt;battered away Joyce's attempt at confusion&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The tax has three significant benefits:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;1. &amp;nbsp;Instead of borrowing more and more money from Australian banks to buy the same houses off each other Kiwis will start to think about what they should invest in. &amp;nbsp;If occasionally it is in technology and not in rentals then things will improve.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;2. &amp;nbsp;It means that we can keep our power company shares. &amp;nbsp;They return 17.5% per annum. &amp;nbsp;The debt they are meant to "retire" costs 5.5% per annum. &amp;nbsp;Any paid advisor who proposes their sale needs to be sacked instantly for incompetence.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;3. &amp;nbsp;It is fair. &amp;nbsp;For the past 25 years taxes have been tilted to the right. &amp;nbsp;The last Labour Government made modest corrections but overall the concentration of wealth in the hands of the rich has continued.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The response of the media has been interesting. &amp;nbsp;The Herald has adopted it with open hands. &amp;nbsp;But state owned TVOne put a &lt;a href="http://tvnz.co.nz/breakfast-news/phil-goff-labour-s-poll-rating-3-51-video-4310945"&gt;poll&lt;/a&gt; in the field that ended before the official announcement and then decreed that this was evidence that the campaign failed. &amp;nbsp;TVOne essentially says that the campaign did not have a chance, but why my tax dollars are paying for the evisceration of the capital gains tax campaign is beyond me.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Overall the proposal is just, the financial imperatives are crystal clear and if I am asked should we do this my response, replacing the first word with one that is slightly less passionate is "hell yeah".&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/942819925463058432-2574840075843934066?l=waitakerenews.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/feeds/2574840075843934066/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=942819925463058432&amp;postID=2574840075843934066' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/2574840075843934066'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/2574840075843934066'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/2011/07/cgt-hell-yeah.html' title='CGT Hell Yeah'/><author><name>mickysavage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16293708548352713924</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_80M5EXfefKc/R-IovH7v_KI/AAAAAAAAABM/qQyaZJmhNCY/S220/mickysavage.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-p7-wvsHzTrA/TiuVHj07skI/AAAAAAAAAOw/QYQJFXzoge4/s72-c/Labour+west+CGT+meeting+2.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942819925463058432.post-2452652872527343373</id><published>2011-07-14T02:22:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-07-14T02:23:59.245-07:00</updated><title type='text'>The CGT policy is released - Landlords are afraid</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-0ml2dD1JhKQ/Th605RGC50I/AAAAAAAAAOs/J1iUHAbbBOA/s1600/not-for-sale-cake-tin.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-0ml2dD1JhKQ/Th605RGC50I/AAAAAAAAAOs/J1iUHAbbBOA/s1600/not-for-sale-cake-tin.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Labour's Capital Gains Tax policy has now been &lt;a href="http://www.ownourfuture.co.nz/"&gt;released&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;I will not attempt to delve into the technical details. &amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://asianinvasion2006.blogspot.com/"&gt;Right wing bloggers will do so&lt;/a&gt; and try to demonstrate how easy it is to avoid paying the tax but they miss the point. &amp;nbsp;If it collects 50% of the potential tax it will be achieving something beneficial and if individuals change their behaviour to avoid paying the tax then something else beneficial will be achieved. &amp;nbsp;They will pay tax one way or the other and this is good.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;This morning on morning report &lt;a href="http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/morningreport/audio/2493468/property-investor-won't-be-deterred-by-capital-gains-tax.asx"&gt;one oppressed landlord&lt;/a&gt; opined that he would forthwith put up rentals on the properties that he owned so that he did not lose when he paid capital gains tax. &amp;nbsp;He should get advice. &amp;nbsp;His currently owned properties will be exempt. &amp;nbsp;And rental levels tend to be set by the market, not by the desire of the landlord.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Obviously out of the goodness of his heart he is not charging market rentals right now but faced with the prospect he will pay more to the common good he will revert to being a rapacious selfish capitalist. &amp;nbsp;He also has this world view that society owes him a living no matter what. &amp;nbsp;This is interesting as it is precisely the accusation that RWNJs throw at beneficiaries.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Other poor landlords are because of the possibility of a CGT&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&amp;amp;objectid=10736829&amp;amp;ref=rss"&gt;contemplating leaving NZ&lt;/a&gt; to go to Australia and buying rental property over there. &amp;nbsp;Someone should gently tell them that Australia has a CGT and it's highest tax band is higher than Aotearoa's. &amp;nbsp;They will no doubt be disappointed but the presence of greed does not indicate the presence of intelligence or understanding. &amp;nbsp;Or compassion.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Overall the proposal is a just one. &amp;nbsp;Capitalists should contribute to our society the way that workers always have.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/942819925463058432-2452652872527343373?l=waitakerenews.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/feeds/2452652872527343373/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=942819925463058432&amp;postID=2452652872527343373' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/2452652872527343373'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/942819925463058432/posts/default/2452652872527343373'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/2011/07/cgt-policy-is-released-landlords-are.html' title='The CGT policy is released - Landlords are afraid'/><author><name>mickysavage</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16293708548352713924</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_80M5EXfefKc/R-IovH7v_KI/AAAAAAAAABM/qQyaZJmhNCY/S220/mickysavage.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-0ml2dD1JhKQ/Th605RGC50I/AAAAAAAAAOs/J1iUHAbbBOA/s72-c/not-for-sale-cake-tin.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-942819925463058432.post-1206852205897303218</id><published>2011-07-09T13:56:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-07-09T13:57:26.242-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Cameron Slater is excited ...</title><content type='html'>&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 16px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 16px;"&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-6bw-si3In5M/ThjAUDlGbaI/AAAAAAAAAOo/1LyCkqvexks/s1600/Labour+Stop+asset+sales+3.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="320" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-6bw-si3In5M/ThjAUDlGbaI/AAAAAAAAAOo/1LyCkqvexks/s320/Labour+Stop+asset+sales+3.jpg" width="213" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 14px; margin-bottom: 1.071em; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 14px; margin-bottom: 1.071em; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 14px; margin-bottom: 1.071em; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Cameron is &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://whaleoil.gotcha.co.nz/index.php/2011/07/prosecute-them-hard/"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;all excited&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt; and has reported that Labour has been reported to the Police by the Electoral Commission. &amp;nbsp;What heinous crime you may wonder that it has committed? &amp;nbsp;Well it left a couple of words off the back of a brochure.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 14px; margin-bottom: 1.071em; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The section of the Electoral Act that provides the test on whether or not an advertisement is an election advertisement and needs a promoter statement is (take a deep breath):&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 14px; margin-bottom: 1.071em; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;“3A Meaning of election advertisement&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="subprov" style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; clear: left; font-size: 14px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;(1)&amp;nbsp;In this Act,&amp;nbsp;election advertisement—&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 14px; margin-bottom: 1.071em; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-attachment: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-image: initial; background-origin: initial; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-color: initial; border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-top-width: 0px; font-size: 14px; margin-bottom: 1.071em; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; outline-color: initial; outline-style: initial; outline-width: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-top: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;(a)&amp;nbsp;means an advertisement in any medium that may reasonably be regarded as encouraging or persuading voters to do either or both of the following:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="background-attachment: initial; 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